On Jun 25, 8:20 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jun 25, 8:06 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 24, 6:30 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >http://theresma.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!80EE15D075B65A13!361.entry
>
> > > June 20
>
> > > CDC Admits Thimerosal Safety Study Flawed
> > > ... so basically, you can't trust anything they've said about how
safe
> > > thimerosal is, or vaccines are. They've been doing the bidding of
Big Pharma
> > > all along, in addition to their own pathological quest to vaccinate
everyone
> > > against everything as soon after birth as possible (as if there is
no other
> > > way to prevent diseases, and as if vaccines are harmless).
>
> > > Click through the link to read David Kirby's piece on the Huffington
Post.
>
> > > Quote
>
> >
>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/cdc-vaccine-study-design_b_...
>
> > > CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has delivered a potentially
explosive
> > > re****t to the powerful House Appropriations Committee, in which she
admits
> > > to a startling string of errors in the design and methods used in
the CDC's
> > > landmark 2003 study that found no link between mercury in vaccines
and
> > > autism, ADHD, speech delay or tics.
>
> > > Gerberding was responding to a 2006 re****t from the National
Institute of
> > > Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which concluded that the
CDC's
> > > flag****p thimerosal safety study was riddled with "several areas of
> > > weaknesses" that combined to "reduce the usefulness" of the study.
>
> > > "CDC concurs," Dr. Gerberding wrote in an undated mea culpa to
Congress,
> > > (provided to me through a Capitol Hill staffer) adding that her
agency "does
> > > not plan to use" the database in question, the Vaccine Safety
Datalink,
> > > (VSD) for any future "ecological studies" of autism.
>
> > > In fact, Gerberding's re****t said, any continued use of the VSD for
similar
> > > ecological studies of vaccines and autism "would be uninformative
and
> > > potentially misleading."
>
> > > Ecological vaccine studies are large, epidemiological analyses of
risks and
> > > trends using computerized data from large populations -- in this
case
> > > children enrolled at several big HMOs -- without ever examining a
single
> > > patient in person.
>
> > > CDC officials conducted at least five separate analyses of the data
over a
> > > four-year period from 1999-2003. The first analysis showed that
children
> > > exposed to the most thimerosal by one month of age had extremely
high
> > > relative risks for a number of outcomes, compared with children who
got
> > > little or no mercury: The relative risk for ADHD was 8.29 times
higher, for
> > > autism, it was 7.62 times higher, ADD, 6.38 times higher, tics, 5.65
times,
> > > and speech and language delays were 2.09 more likely among kids who
got the
> > > most mercury.
>
> > > Over time, however, all of these risks declined into statistical
> > > insignificance, statistical inconsistency or else outright oblivion:
The
> > > relative risk for autism plummeted from 7.62 in the first analysis,
to 2.48
> > > in the second version, to 1.69 in the third round, to 1.52 in the
fourth,
> > > and down to nothing at all in the fifth, final, and published
analysis
> > > printed in the Journal Pediatrics in November of 2003.
>
> > > Vaccine officials attributed the steady drop to the elimination of
> > > "statistical noise" from the data through due diligence and the
endeavor for
> > > excellence in governmental statistical analysis.
>
> > > Indeed, the VSD study was the main pillar of a hugely influential
2004
> > > re****t by the Institute of Medicine, which also concluded that there
was no
> > > evidence of link between mercury, vaccines and autism.
>
> > > To this day, public health officials routinely point to five "large
> > > epidemiological studies" representing the "highest quality science,"
none of
> > > which found any link to thimerosal.
>
> > > In fact, the American VSD study has long been held up as the best
and
> > > brightest of them all (the others were in Sweden, the UK, and two in
> > > Denmark). And this reputation has stuck in the minds of medicine and
the
> > > media.
>
> > > Curiously though, even the study's lead author -- Dr. Thomas
Verstraeten, an
> > > employee of vaccine maker GlaxoSmithKline -- protested that the VSD
study
> > > "found no evidence against an association, as a negative study
would. In
> > > fact, he said that additional study was needed, which "is the
conclusion to
> > > which a neutral study must come."
>
> > > That's when Congress stepped in.
>
> > > In 2005, a group of Senators and Representatives headed by Sen. Joe
> > > Lieberman wrote to the NIEHS (an agency of the National Institutes
of
> > > Health) saying that many parents no longer trusted the CDC to
conduct
> > > independent minded studies of its own vaccine program. Lieberman et
al asked
> > > NIEHS to review the CDC's work on the vaccine database and re****t
back with
> > > critiques and suggestions.
>
> > > The final NIEHS re****t was a serious and thoughtful critique of
where the
> > > CDC went wrong in its design, conduct and analysis of the study. The
NIEHS
> > > panel "identified several serious problems," with the CDC's effort,
> > > criticism to which the agency had not responded -- until now.
>
> > > In her letter to the House Appropriations Committee, the CDC
Director
> > > responded directly to many -- though not all -- of the most
im****tant
> > > criticisms and recommendations contained in the NIEHS panel re****t.
>
> > > For example, the NIEHS had criticized CDC for failing to account for
other
> > > mercury exposures, including maternal sources from flu shots and
immune
> > > globulin, as well as mercury in food and the environment.
>
> > > "CDC acknowledges this concern and recognizes this limitation," the
> > > Gerberding reply says.
>
> > > The NIEHS also took CDC to task for eliminating 25% of the study
population
> > > for a variety of reasons, even though this represented, "a
susceptible
> > > population whose removal from the analysis might unintentionally
reduce the
> > > ability to detect an effect of thimerosal." This strict entry
criteria
> > > likely led to an "under-ascertainment" of autism cases, the NIEHS
re****ted.
>
> > > "CDC concurs," Gerberding wrote, again noting that its study design
was "not
> > > appropriate for studying this vaccine safety topic. The data are
intended
> > > for administrative purposes and may not be predictive of the
outcomes
> > > studied."
>
> > > Another serious problem was that the HMOs changed the way they
tracked and
> > > recorded autism diagnoses over time, including during the period
when
> > > vaccine mercury levels were in decline. Such changes could "affect
the
> > > observed rate of autism and could confound or distort trends in
autism
> > > rates," the NIEHS warned.
>
> > > "CDC concurs," Dr. Gerberding wrote again, "that conducting an
ecologic
> > > analysis using VSD administrative data to address potential
associations
> > > between thimerosal exposure and risk of ASD is not useful."
>
> > > Read that sentence one more time. The head of the CDC is saying that
its
> > > most powerful and convincing piece of exonerating evidence for
thimerosal
> > > is, in effect, "useless."
>
> > > I hope everyone will read it, including the recommendations to make
the VSD
> > > better, and the CDC's agreement with all of the suggestions.
>
> > > As questionable at the US thimerosal study was, "it was an
improvement on
> > > other studies, including the two in Denmark, both of which had
serious
> > > weaknesses in their designs," Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto, Professor of
Public
> > > Health at UC Davis Medical School and Chair of the NIEHS panel, told
> > > re****ter Dan Olmsted at UPI.
>
> > > That leaves very little for the CDC to go on in terms of proving
that
> > > thimerosal and autism are not associated in any way.
>
> > > Yes, there is always the study of disability services data from
> > > California -- which seem to be rising among the youngest cohorts of
kids,
> > > who presumably received little or no mercury because thimerosal was
largely
> > > removed from childhood shots.
>
> > > But California is an "ecological study" with problems of its own.
>
> > > "Although (this) information is often used by media and research
entities to
> > > develop statistics and draw conclusions, some of these findings may
> > > misrepresent the quarterly figures," cautions the website of the
California
> > > Department of Developmental Services (DDS). "Increases in the number
of
> > > persons re****ted from one quarter to the next do not necessarily
represent
> > > persons who are new to the DDS system."
>
> > > Even the CDC admits that "there are several limitations" with
linking a VSD
> > > study design with the California data, Gerberding wrote to Congress,
> > > because, among other things, California only counts "persons who
were
> > > referred to and/or voluntarily entered" the disability system."
>
> > > It will be interesting to see how the House Committee -- and the
mainstream
> > > media -- react to this rather breathtaking confession by the CDC,
which does
> > > seem to want to conduct the best vaccine-autism science possible
(see
> > > Gerberding's replies to NIEHS recommendations for improving the VSD:
CDC
> > > officials are currently conducting in- depth follow up studies with
VSD
> > > patients).
>
> > > As the waning months of the Bush administration get underway, I
can't help
> > > but wonder if a little housecleaning might be going on at some of
our top
> > > health agencies.
>
> > Oh WHOOPS! Darn it, the studies were flawed...
>
> > WE'RE SORRY EVERYONE, SAYS THE CDC, BUT... DARN IT,
> > "CDC concurs," Gerberding wrote, again noting that its study design
> > was "not
>
> > > appropriate for studying this vaccine safety topic. The data are
intended
> > > for administrative purposes and may not be predictive of the
outcomes
> > > studied."
>
> > > Another serious problem was that the HMOs changed the way they
tracked and
> > > recorded autism diagnoses over time, including during the period
when
> > > vaccine mercury levels were in decline. Such changes could "affect
the
> > > observed rate of autism and could confound or distort trends in
autism
> > > rates," the NIEHS warned.
>
> > > "CDC concurs," Dr. Gerberding wrote again, "that conducting an
ecologic
> > > analysis using VSD administrative data to address potential
associations
> > > between thimerosal exposure and risk of ASD is not useful."
>
> > is NOT USEFUL??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> > And THIS is the data that Bowditch
> > and Probee were using ...
>
> Actually, David Kirby is flawed. Seriously flawed.
>
> Read the articles at this blog, written by a trained and experienced
> epidemiologist.
>
> Note how Kirby's lies are well do***ented.
>
> Now, do your homework, and try to remember what you have read. I
> posted this before, you responded, and, apparently your dysfunctional
> brain could not retain it.
Mark, please help us out here, I can SEE that vaccinations are
REALLY TAKING A BEATING lately here in misc.health.alternative
and I KNOW you've been really doing a good job
with MISDIRECTIONS, INSULTS and DENIALISM,
all that your one track remnant of a brain
is capable of after all those years denialism,
so, please, especially after articles
such as THIS one (I MUS tell you about it
so you can "defend" vaccinations a little better)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/deirdre-imus/a-timely-truth-untold-aga_b_104711.html
I know you will help us all understand
why the poison vaccines which weaken our immune
system and have long term deleterious
consequences are really GOOD for us and
even GOOD for little babies.
Now get to work, you've got some serious
explaining to do, that is if you
are MENTALLY capable of it.
Good luck Probee!!!!!!
(ha ha haha hahahahaha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Citizen Jimserac
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