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Innumeracy (was: 'Trace' mercury)

by "D. C. Sessions" <dcs@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 8, 2008 at 08:16 AM

In message <2Mydnc2cc4WJNNbVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, JOHN wrote:

> Remember when it says "trace" it equals 2000 parts per billion - see
below 
> for dangers of 0.5 parts per billion, 2 parts per billion, 20 parts per 
> billion and 200 parts per billion.  TRACE is 2000 parts per billion!

Actually, John, if you were to even read your own sources (see below)
you'd find that it's "less than" (not "equal to") 1000 (not 2000) ppb.

> From Gary Goldman
> Vaccines with trace amounts of Thimerosal, by definition, contain less
than 
> 1 microgram of mercury (Hg) per dose ( 
> http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm).

Yup.  Part of "less than" is zero.  It's just impossible to test for zero,
so instead they use "homeopathic 6X" instead.

> For example, consider that the reduced-Thimerosal flu vaccine with
0.0002% 
> mercury is equivalent to 1 microgram [µg] of Hg per 0.5 mL, or 2 µg of
Hg 
> per mL, which is the same as 2000 µg per liter; or 2000 parts per
billion 
> [ppb][2].

And is, conveniently, the only remaining vaccine which routinely contains
mercury.  The rest have too little to measure.

>      0.5 parts per billion (ppb) mercury has been shown to kill human 
> neuroblastoma cells (Parran et al., Toxicol Sci 2005; 86:132-40).
>      2 ppb mercury is the U.S. EPA limit for drinking water ( 
> http://www.epa.gov/safewater/contaminants/index.html#mcls).
>      20 ppb mercury destroys neurite membrane structures (Leong et al., 
> Neurore****t 2001:12733-7).
>      200 ppb mercury is the level in liquid that the EPA classifies as 
> hazardous waste

Excellent.  Now, let's examine what that 0.5 microgram of mercury amounts
to (we'll ignore the blood-brain barrier and pretend that the same
concentrations make it to the CNS):

0.5 microgram per 6 kg (5th percentile at six months) infant:
less than 0.1 ppb, or 1/5th the lowest value that has been found
to cause damage when applied directly to cell cultures.

However, I'm confident that the dishonesty of presenting the upper bound
of the concentration in the vaccine as though it were a blood transfusion
won't bother any of the True Believers.

>      2000 ppb - TRACE is 2000 parts per b

Apparently, innumeracy also goes along with being able to contradict
oneself in the same page.

-- 
| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
|  unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct   |
|  before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson    |
+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ---------+
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
'Trace' mercury
"JOHN" <john  2008-06-08 10:40:43 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
Citizen Jimserac <Jims  2008-06-08 07:40:05 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
Mark Probert <mark.pro  2008-06-09 05:28:59 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"Jan Drew" <  2008-06-10 02:45:59 
Innumeracy (was: 'Trace' mercury)
"D. C. Sessions"  2008-06-08 08:16:54 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"Jan Drew" <  2008-06-08 20:27:52 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"Peter Moran" &  2008-06-09 07:35:29 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"D. C. Sessions"  2008-06-08 15:38:00 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"Jan Drew" <  2008-06-08 20:45:46 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
Mark Probert <mark.pro  2008-06-09 05:37:42 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@[EMA  2008-06-09 01:47:25 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"D. C. Sessions"  2008-06-08 19:21:39 
Re: 'Trace' mercury
"Jan Drew" <  2008-06-10 03:00:19 

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