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Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-

by dmcanzi@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Canzi) Jul 18, 2008 at 05:31 AM

In article <527.1216157009.20080715@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
Martin  <martin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:27:27 +0000 (UTC), dmcanzi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(David Canzi) wrote:
>>In article <522.1216146069.20080715@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>Martin  <martin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>So, you're suggesting that the blood donor did not have HIV when he
>>>donated blood, but did have it by 25 March.  That's a only a six month
>>>window.
>
>>6 months is still more than enough time.  The odds against an
>>uninfected blood donor being antibody positive 6 months later
>>are not so long when you consider that there are millions of
>>blood donors.
>
>According to this article,
><http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=125&art_id=vn20080715063507195C538198>,
>there are 350,000 blood donors in South Africa, and 80 to 100 of them
>become HIVers each year.

Narrowing the focus to South Africa alone rigs the statistics
in your favour.  Not by enough: 80 to 100 is still plenty to
guarantee that some will be HIV antibody positive within 6 months
after donating uninfected blood.

>>>Oh, and if the conclusion is that the boy wasn't given HIVAIDS
>>>infected blood, why did he have an HIV antibody test?
>
>>My conclusion was not that the boy was given uninfected blood
>>but that, based on evidence described in the article, it can't
>>be proven that he received infected blood.
>
>It's quite amusing to read someone who believes the HIVAIDS lie
>writing about things being proven.

What you're trying to distract attention from with this quip is
the fact that what I said is not what you claim I said.  And I
wrote it carefully and clearly to avoid being misunderstood by
accident.

>>Given the knowledge that the donor tested antibody positive
>>6 months later it would be likely that the donated blood was
>>infected.  That's why a doctor would have the recipient tested.
>>
>>Given the additional knowledge that the recipient tested antibody
>>negative after the window perion, it is less likely that the
>>donated blood was infected.
>
>Nice bit of HIVAIDS double speak.

Since you didn't point out anything wrong with my reasoning,
I'll conclude that you couldn't.

>IOL and medical experts weren't so
>clever with their foot work,
>
><http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=125&art_id=iol1216127114451H125>:

The story at that URL says that the boy didn't receive contaminated
blood, contradicting (or maybe correcting) the earlier story's claim
that he did.  News re****ters often get things wrong.  You shouldn't
be surprised when two related news stories contradict each other.

-- 
David Canzi		| Life is too short to point out every mistake. |
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
Martin <martin@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 15:32:32 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
dmcanzi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-15 15:49:50 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
Martin <martin@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 18:21:07 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
dmcanzi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-15 19:27:27 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
Martin <martin@[EMAIL   2008-07-15 21:23:27 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
dmcanzi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-18 05:31:47 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
Martin <martin@[EMAIL   2008-07-19 21:58:44 
Re: Boy given HIV+ blood, but remains HIV-
dmcanzi@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-07-20 23:06:20 

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