Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN cell
sorting and analysis system there
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From: Joanne Lannigan <jl7fj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Tue Mar 25 2008 - 09:18:39 EDT
Adrian:
The only reason it is, as you say, "occasional announcements" is
because
Paul has discouraged this in the past. Once you open the door by
condoning
this practice why should any of the other vendors exercise any
constraint?
Then you are no longer dealing with an "occasional" announcement. I am
sure
all of the companies have announcements they would like to make to
this
group about new locations, websites, services or products, but that is
what
marketing budgets are for. As I said previously, I have no problem
with
vendors contributing to any scientific discussions on the list as I
have
learned from many (especially Rick Haugland), but announcements of the
sort
from Bay Biosciences are marketing. If everyone thinks this type of
post is
appropriate then let's be fair and let all the vendors have at it and
then
you'll see how "occasional" it is. Ultimately it is Paul's decision
since he
and his crew do all the work to keep this list what it is, but you
need to
realize that it is what it is because it is monitored and
commercialism has
been discouraged in the past.
"JL"
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:14:08 +1100
Adrian Smith <a.smith@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I agree with Sue and Roland. I would hate to see the list swamped by
> marketing material but the occasional announcement like the one below
is
>definitely of interest to me.
>
> Another example of a mailing list that works with some vendor input
from
>time to time is the confocal mailing list - often there the subject line
>will be prefixed with "Commercial". Some people on that list on that
list
>are also careful to declare commercial interest - which I always
>appreciate.
>
> The bottom line, to quote, out of context (?), from another thread :)
>
>> If you don=12t want to hear (read) it then just delete it.
>> JL
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Adrian Smith
> Centenary Institute, Sydney, Australia
>
>
>
>
>
> On 21/03/2008, at 5:16 AM, FloCyte Associates, INC wrote:
>
>> No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
>> 100% with Roland.
>>
>> I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
>> the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to
>> attend ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to
>> have very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who
>> solves issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would
>> you exclude vendors from the discussion???
>>
>> And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors
>> can solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
>> list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get results.
>> The vendors HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned a LOT
>> from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find out
>> about new products and services? How often would you go to the ISAC
>> website to look for a new product you don't even know exists? Or
>> how do you know there is some training op****tunity happening in your
>> area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how do you get your
>> service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
>>
>> Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
>> answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
>> nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
>> like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
>> [Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
>>
>> I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
>> the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
>> list!! Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
>> and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I
>> filter this list!
>> Sue
>>
>>
>> At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>> I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>>> from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>>> this is unacceptable ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joanne Lannigan [ mailto:jl7fj@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>>> To: cyto-inbox its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>>>
>>> Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The
>>> ISAC
>>> website has a place where you can post news releases about such
>>> events or
>>> information. Thanks-
>>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
>>> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharvey01@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> > Dear all,
>>> >
>>> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
>>> designs,
>>> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and
>>> analysis
>>> >systems
>>> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
>>> decision
>>> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United
>>> States and
>>> > to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience
>>> currently offers
>>> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
>>> analysis
>>> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company
>>> office is in
>>> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the
>>> East
>>> >Coast
>>> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website
>>> (www.baybio.co.jp ) to
>>> > learn more about the company and its products. I will be
>>> overseeing the US
>>> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe
>>> The company
>>> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry
>>> Meeting
>>> >(March
>>> > 13-15, in ****tland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
>>> 17-21).
>>> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to
>>> discuss any
>>> > aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel
>>> free to
>>> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
>>> hearing
>>> > from you.
>>> >
>>> > Best Regards,
>>> >
>>> > Jeff Harvey
>>>
>>>
>
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