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From: Gerstein, Rachel <Rachel.Gerst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 13:30:21 EDT
hello to all,
I have given this some thought (and read the posts re this), and I
would have to now agree that there is nothing to gain to bar
commercial messages from the mailing list. Yes, many would want the
information and it is easy enough to delete what you dont want to
read.
I would actually prefer that these messages are posted, rather than
e-
mailing individual list members. That is what motivated my earlier
post. I dont like the practice of companies e-mailing me just
because
I post here, or publish in journals that list my e-mail address when
I
am an author. Just my preference,
happy flowing...
Rachel
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Rachel M. Gerstein, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology
Graduate Program in Immunology/Virology
University of Massachusetts Medical School
55 Lake Avenue North
Worcester, MA 01655-0002
(508) 856-1044
(508) 856-5920 (FAX)
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From: FloCyte Associates, INC [mailto:floc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thu 3/20/2008 2:16 PM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN
cell sorting and analysis system there
No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100% with Roland.
I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to attend
ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have
very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves
issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you
exclude vendors from the discussion???
And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get
results. The vendors HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned
a LOT from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find
out about new products and services? How often would you go to the
ISAC website to look for a new product you don't even know
exists? Or how do you know there is some training op****tunity
happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how
do you get your service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
[Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
list!! Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I filter
this list!
Sue
At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>this is unacceptable ?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joanne Lannigan
>[<mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and
>introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The ISAC
>website has a place where you can post news releases about such events or
>information. Thanks-
>On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharve...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
design=
s,
> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
> >systems
> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
decis=
ion
> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States
and
> > to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience currently
offe=
rs
> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
analys=
is
> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company office
is =
in
> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
> >Coast
> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp)
to
> > learn more about the company and its products. I will be
> overseeing the US
> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe The
compa=
ny
> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
> >(March
> > 13-15, in ****tland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
17-21)=
..
> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss
any
> > aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel free to
> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
hearin=
g
> > from you.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jeff Harvey
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Date: Thu Mar 20 2008 - 14:16:59 EDT
No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100% with Roland.
I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to attend
ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have
very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves
issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you
exclude vendors from the discussion???
And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get
results. The vendors HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned
a LOT from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find
out about new products and services? How often would you go to the
ISAC website to look for a new product you don't even know
exists? Or how do you know there is some training op****tunity
happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how
do you get your service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
[Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
list!! Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I filter
this list!
Sue
At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>this is unacceptable ?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joanne Lannigan
>[<mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and
>introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The ISAC
>website has a place where you can post news releases about such events or
>information. Thanks-
>On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharve...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
design=
s,
> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
> >systems
> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
decis=
ion
> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States
and
> > to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience currently
offe=
rs
> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
analys=
is
> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company office
is =
in
> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
> >Coast
> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp)
to
> > learn more about the company and its products. I will be
> overseeing the US
> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe The
compa=
ny
> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
> >(March
> > 13-15, in ****tland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
17-21)=
..
> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss
any
> > aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel free to
> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
hearin=
g
> > from you.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jeff Harvey
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From: Adrian Smith <a.sm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 06:14:08 EDT
I agree with Sue and Roland. I would hate to see the list swamped by
marketing material but the occasional announcement like the one
below
is definitely of interest to me.
Another example of a mailing list that works with some vendor input
from time to time is the confocal mailing list - often there the
subject line will be prefixed with "Commercial". Some people on that
list on that list are also careful to declare commercial interest -
which I always appreciate.
The bottom line, to quote, out of context (?), from another thread :)
> If you don t want to hear (read) it then just delete it.
> JL
Regards,
Adrian Smith
Centenary Institute, Sydney, Australia
On 21/03/2008, at 5:16 AM, FloCyte Associates, INC wrote:
> No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
> 100% with Roland.
> I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
> the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to
> attend ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to
> have very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who
> solves issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would
> you exclude vendors from the discussion???
> And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors
> can solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
> list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get results.
> The vendors HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned a LOT
> from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find out
> about new products and services? How often would you go to the ISAC
> website to look for a new product you don't even know exists? Or
> how do you know there is some training op****tunity happening in your
> area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how do you get your
> service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
> Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
> answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
> nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
> like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
> [Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
> I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
> the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
> list!! Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
> and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I
> filter this list!
> Sue
> At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>> I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>> from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>> this is unacceptable ?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joanne Lannigan [ mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>> To: cyto-inbox its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>> Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The
>> ISAC
>> website has a place where you can post news releases about such
>> events or
>> information. Thanks-
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
>> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharve...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
>> designs,
>> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and
>> analysis
>> >systems
>> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
>> decision
>> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United
>> States and
>> > to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience
>> currently offers
>> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
>> analysis
>> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company
>> office is in
>> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the
>> East
>> >Coast
>> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website
>> (www.baybio.co.jp ) to
>> > learn more about the company and its products. I will be
>> overseeing the US
>> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe
>> The company
>> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry
>> Meeting
>> >(March
>> > 13-15, in ****tland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
>> 17-21).
>> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to
>> discuss any
>> > aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel
>> free to
>> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
>> hearing
>> > from you.
>> > Best Regards,
>> > Jeff Harvey
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From: Gerstein, Rachel <Rachel.Gerst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Sat Mar 22 2008 - 13:30:21 EDT
hello to all,
I have given this some thought (and read the posts re this), and I
would have to now agree that there is nothing to gain to bar
commercial messages from the mailing list. Yes, many would want the
information and it is easy enough to delete what you dont want to
read.
I would actually prefer that these messages are posted, rather than
e-
mailing individual list members. That is what motivated my earlier
post. I dont like the practice of companies e-mailing me just
because
I post here, or publish in journals that list my e-mail address when
I
am an author. Just my preference,
happy flowing...
Rachel
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Rachel M. Gerstein, Ph.D.
Associate Professor
Department of Molecular Genetics and Microbiology
Graduate Program in Immunology/Virology
University of Massachusetts Medical School
55 Lake Avenue North
Worcester, MA 01655-0002
(508) 856-1044
(508) 856-5920 (FAX)
-----Original Message-----
From: FloCyte Associates, INC [mailto:floc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thu 3/20/2008 2:16 PM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN
cell sorting and analysis system there
No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100% with Roland.
I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to attend
ISAC would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have
very cheap or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves
issues with vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you
exclude vendors from the discussion???
And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
list, for example, welcomes vendors responses and they get
results. The vendors HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned
a LOT from vendors! Without messages from Vendors, how do you find
out about new products and services? How often would you go to the
ISAC website to look for a new product you don't even know
exists? Or how do you know there is some training op****tunity
happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know what you need and how
do you get your service / technical questions heard by all vendors?
Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often,
nothing has ever evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't
like messages from vendors, just filter them out, and having
[Company:] in the subject time is a perfect way to do that!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing
list!! Just put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them
and decide what I want to read or not read later! Just like I filter
this list!
Sue
At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
>I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
>from the mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree
>this is unacceptable ?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joanne Lannigan
>[<mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
>To: cyto-inbox Subject: Re: Bay bioscience opens US office and
>introduces its JSAN cell sorting and analysis system there
>Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The ISAC
>website has a place where you can post news releases about such events or
>information. Thanks-
>On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
> "Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharve...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
design=
s,
> > develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
> >systems
> > and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
decis=
ion
> > earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States
and
> > to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience currently
offe=
rs
> > the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
analys=
is
> > capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company office
is =
in
> > the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
> >Coast
> > and West Coast. Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp)
to
> > learn more about the company and its products. I will be
> overseeing the US
> > operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe The
compa=
ny
> > will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
> >(March
> > 13-15, in ****tland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
17-21)=
..
> > Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss
any
> > aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel free to
> > contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
hearin=
g
> > from you.
> > Best Regards,
> > Jeff Harvey
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From: <vincent.shan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Fri Mar 21 2008 - 19:47:53 EDT
Dear Friends and Colleagues,
Without belaboring the point, while I find this an interesting
suggestion,
it would imply that I should place [Company] in the subject line
because I
work for a company. All rules have their excess, and I would submit
that J
Paul (actually Steve) and company have done a great job maintaining
the
integrity of this list. If an occasional message is allowed thru that
has
potential commercial implications, I would rather have that than
complete
(or no) censor****p. If individuals wish to express their displeasure
at a
specific posting (irrespective of the source) this allows discussion,
and
if necessary, re-calibration of the gating algorithm. And regarding
vendors monitoring the list versus actively soliciting messages, I
suspect
that most monitor this list to gather useful information, much of
potential use to their customers. But this is quite different from
"open
access" for solicitation.
While I'm here, some additional comments:
1.) Cost of the ISAC meeting. I find the registration of $650 (US) a
bit
steep for a meeting. While I was on ISAC Council, a resolution was
passed
by Council that the Congress be shortened (in an attempt to reduce
the
registration fee and overall cost) and be held annually. The
combination
of a $650 registration fee plus hotel costs (esp in Europe- for US
scientists) makes it difficult for many labs to bring key technicians
and
post-docs; it even makes it difficult for many senior scientists to
justify. To put this in a bit of perspective, the American Asc for
Cancer
Research charges a $425 (US) registration fee to their members for
their 4
day. An im****tant difference is that the AACR has SIGNIFICANT
industrial
sup****t. We need to do as much as possible to make our meeting's
overall
cost "reasonable". ISAC must do everything it can to keep the overall
meeting costs (registration, airfare, hotels and meals) to a minimum
(this
ain't ASCO).
2.) Vendor sup****t. This is essential for ISAC or any other
professional
society. At one point, I was chair of the committee that raised
donations
for the ISAC Congress, and approached every company that I could
think
of
that sold products to our member****p quite shamelessly. Every society
does
this because it helps lower the cost of the meeting (or should) for
the
individual attendees. And by the way, the money the vendors use comes
from
the customers. Donations are thus a means to widen the available
attendees
who will buy their products. The approach must be balanced.
3) Meeting location. While I appreciate this is a problematic issue,
refer
back to item "1. At one point, ISAC restricted the Congress to
"smaller"
venues to keep us together. Much science gets discussed (in places
that
tend to serve alcohol) at ISAC, and that's one reason I attend
(discussion, not libations). Where will we gather in Budapest (after
poster sessions)? Unlikely to be the InterContinental Hotel - I
probably
could not afford one beer there.
4) What is the focus of ISAC? I'm running for Clinical Councilor
(sorry, I
too had to get in my pitch), so my potential constituency for the
most
part has a limited focus. But the society needs to have a balanced
focus
on flow and image cytometry. And I don't think that DNA, RNA or
protein
arrays should be our soup!. Our unit of measurement is the cell, and
once
you bust it up, someone with better technical expertise should be
telling
scientists and clinicians what best to do. That said, we should
communicate and work with "non-cellular" scientists where our
interests
and technologies intersect.
I need to go home for the weekend. A Happy Easter to all.
Sincerely,
Vince
p.s. I'm running for Clinical Councilor. If you live in Chicago vote
early
and often
T. Vincent Shankey, Ph.D.
Advanced Technology Center
Beckman Coulter, Inc.
vincent.shan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(305)-380-2430
"FloCyte Associates, INC" <floc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
03/20/2008 02:16 PM
To
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cc
Subject
RE: Bay bioscience opens US office and introduces its JSAN cell
sorting
and analysis system there
No this is not acceptable! I'm sorry, I just don't get it! I agree
100%
with Roland.
I can't understand your position at all? WHO pays the majority of
the
expenses for meetings? Vendors! Without them your cost to attend
ISAC
would probably triple or quadruple!! Who allows you to have very
cheap
or FREE local users' group meetings? Vendors! Who solves issues with
vendor services?? VENDORS! Why on earth would you exclude vendors
from
the discussion???
And actually SOME people welcome messages from vendors... Vendors can
solve a lot of your problems! The Boston Area high speed sorter
list,
for
example, welcomes vendors responses and they get results. The
vendors
HEAR their requests and respond! I've learned a LOT from vendors!
Without
messages from Vendors, how do you find out about new products and
services? How often would you go to the ISAC website to look for a
new
product you don't even know exists? Or how do you know there is some
training op****tunity happening in your area? OR how do Vendors know
what
you need and how do you get your service / technical questions heard
by
all vendors?
Shutting them out isn't the answer to your mail problems! Roland's
answer
was eloquent! And, although we've discussed this often, nothing has
ever
evolved that is a better suggestion! If you don't like messages from
vendors, just filter them out, and having [Company:] in the subject
time
is a perfect way to do that!
I'm sorry, I just don't get it!! Why would you shoot yourself in
the
foot? Vendors - you can put my email address on your mailing list!!
Just
put [Company:] in the subject line! I'll filter them and decide what
I
want to read or not read later! Just like I filter this list!
Sue
At 01:37 PM 3/18/2008, you wrote:
I would suggest extending this to include use of e-mail addresses
from
the
mailing list for commercial solicitation. Can we agree this is
unacceptable ?
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From: Joanne Lannigan [ mailto:jl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sun 3/16/2008 11:56 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Please refrain from use of this list for commercial purposes. The
ISAC
website has a place where you can post news releases about such
events
or
information. Thanks-
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:17:03 -0500
"Jeffrey Harvey" <jsharve...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Dear all,
> Bay bioscience is a Japanese company, based in Kobe. The company
designs,
> develops and manufactures high performance cell sorting and analysis
>systems
> and also develops unique reagent products. The company made the
decision
> earlier this year to establish a direct office in the United States and
> to introduce its instrument systems here. Bay bioscience currently
offers
> the JSAN system, which combines high performance cell sorting and
analysis
> capabilities in a compact and affordable design. The company office is
in
> the San Francisco area and the company has demo sites on both the East
>Coast
> and West Coast. Please visit the company website (www.baybio.co.jp ) to
> learn more about the company and its products. I will be
overseeing the US
> operation and also the distribution of the products in Europe The
company
> will be an exhibitor at both the Northwest Regional Cytometry Meeting
>(March
> 13-15, in ****tland, OR) and at the ISAC Congress in Budapest (May
17-21).
> Please visit us at either of those meetings, if you wish to discuss any
> aspect of the company's products. In the interim, please feel free to
> contact me directly, at this email address. I'll look forward to
hearing
> from you.
> Best Regards,
> Jeff Harvey
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> Date: Wed Aug 25 2004 - 04:17:52 EST
> Well .... some of us PC afficianados hate Macs just as much -
> personally I
> have hated them since they first made it difficult to access their
> DOS
> and
> write programs in any language (especially for accessing/controlling
> lab
> apparatus) - back in the '70's when there were several different
> options -
> not just PC's. I am glad that the "PC" became a standard (there were
> too
> many diferent systems) and that IBM did not hang on to it the way
> Apple kept
> the Mac in house (you get more for your money with a PC because many
> different people make them). You don't often get PC people knocking
> Macs
> the way that the Mac people knock PCs - there seems to be a lot of
> Microsoft
> paranoia. In my opinion PCs are much more common and versatile in
> labs than
> Macs - especially outside the USA - and will eventually become the
> standard
> for interfacing with lab equipment..... and they can "look cool" if
> you shop
> around for the right case if that's im****tant to you.
> Robin Barclay
> Beverly Barton **STEERING COMMITY FOR* SCIENCE ADVISORY BOARD*****
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> To: cyto-inbox
> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: mr on Apple web site
> > Paul:
> > I use Macs exclusively. Between home and labs, I have 7.
> > I hate Windows (I tell everyone, I don't do Windows).
> > Macs are what Windows wishes it could do. OS X is rock-solid,
> > especially Jaguar (OS 10.3).
> > BD guys-get with it and release CellQuest Pro for OS X!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > Oh, and Macs are way more photogenic. They look especially cool next
> > to your flow cytometer. I just bought a new dual-boot G4 with
> > flat-panel display for my flow.
> > Beverly
> > Beverly E. Barton, Ph.D.
> > Assistant Professor
> > Department of Surgery/Division of Urology
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> > On Aug 20, 2004, at 2:25 PM, J. Paul Robinson wrote:
> > > ummm....Mario says..
> > > "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> > > probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> > > Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> > > this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> > > have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> > > paul
For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace.
Don't wet your pocket protectors over this.
> > >> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star
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> Paul,
> I know that for a long time, anyone who used a BD flow cytometer had
littl=
e choice but to use a MAC-data acquisition required it. And, one of the
b=
est third party software packages was FlowJo which only ran on a MAC.
> Mario, being a FlowJock, naturally was heavily
exposed =
to this atmosphere.
However, most of our other laboratory instrumentation appears to run
on the IBM clone type of PC-ELISA reader, luminometer, ELISpot
reader,
and AFFYMETRIX machine to name the first ones that come to mind.
Of course because Flow is such a key component and FlowJo works so
well, we have> MACs (and associated cinema displays) at all of our
desks.
So, Mario is probably pretty close as I guess we now run about 50%
MAC, and for most things they do run better than our PCs for similar
applications, but mostly the two> platforms tend to be used for very
disparate applications and we need both. Wish more science companies
would move to MAC, but as Microsoft probably owns a minority share in
most companies, that will not likely happen in our lifetimes.
Haven't read the article yet, but hopefully Mario remembered to cite
you for all the work on the Flow website/mailing list.
> Randy T. Fischer
> NIH/NIAMS
> Building 10, Room 6D50
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Only two more weeks until ISAC,
that biennial bacchanalia of flower power and fun!
So I hope you'll excuse a bunch of blatantly commercial announcements
to the list, but endulge me this one time and read on.
At the show we'll be releasing FlowJo Version 4.
We've got new platforms for overlaying and clustering, we've made it
work better across theInternet, added all sorts of new conveniences,
and spiffed it up with the new OS X look and feel. What was already
the best analysis software in flow cytometry has gotten a whole lot
better.
At the meeting,
Tree Star is proud to be sponsoring the CyberCafe,
your link to home and responsibility while you're in carefree San
Diego.
Check your email, surf the web, download the slides you'll be
presenting at ten. A cadre of California companies
has contributed to bring in a premier local roaster to satisfy all
your latte urges.
We hope you'll all drop bya nd see what we mean when we say we're
committed to Java.
The network is going wireless this year. Just pop a 802.11 card in
your laptop, and while your
neighbor plays solitaire through the keynote, you can be reading e-
mail.
We're going to open the CyberCafe with the Second Biennial FlowJo
Users Group Meeting,. Saturday night May 4 at 8PM. The first user
group meeting was cancelled for lack of interest when
Dave Novo brought in a case and a half of French wine, so this year
we're going to try real hard to assemble
to the point where we can see the show of hands on something before
we
disband in search of alcohol. We'll have a whole bunch of Macs
running
FlowJo v4 under OS X, and you can bring your own data and get into
big
arguments about compensation. Be the first to get the newest FlowJo
t-****rt.
All you Windows fans out the**re, come by our booth to see FlowJo
running on a PC! We'll be previewing the long awaited Java version
of
FlowJo.
We're still not ready to release it, but we'll be giving a peak as to
what it is going to do.
For those who haven't found it yet, we've unveiled a spanking new
FlowJo website.
Flowjo.com is chuck full of new content, functionality and spunk.
Automated price quotes, online ordering, a FAQ that will guide you to
new
depths of understanding, and none of that awful yellow on black text.
The
search engine even works. No ads & cookie-free. Check it out.
Specifically, you should check our pricing. Prices are going up on
May 10.
It has been a number of years since we've changed our prices and with
the
development of the OSX and PC versions, it=B9s time for a leap. I
guess
there's no such thing as a free launch. Anyway, this may be a great
time to
buy that FlowJo ten pack you've been thinking about. Licenses
purchased
before May 10 are entitled to a year of free upgrades, including the
4.0
release.
Unleash the flower power!
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Dear Yousaf,
WinMDI reads CellQuest data files because they are in FCS2.0
format. The header provides the byte offsets for the TEXT ****tion of
the
file and the DATA ****tion of the file, so it is rather straight
forward to read a FCS datafile in a platform independent manner.
For more info see the FCS do***entation at
http://nucleus.immunol.wa****ngton.edu/ISAC.html
If you're asking about getting Mac files to a PC running Windows,
that is a different issue. Networks make it easy, just be sure
the files are transferred in a BINARY mode. Without a network, most
folks find using a PC formatted floppy or other device and utilizing
the
Mac's ability to read a foreign disk via PC Exchange, for example, a
good solution. WinMDI doesn't care once the files are available to
the PC on a readable device (floppy, ZIP, CDROM, etc...).
Regards,
Joe
On Sun, 29 Jun 2098, Ed Yousaf wrote:
> Dear All,
> Silly question time; can WinMidi read CellQuest data and if so how?
> Many thanks.
> Ed Yousaf FIMLS MPhil
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> announcements to the list, but endulge me this one time and read
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> Only two more weeks until ISAC, that biennial bacchanalia of flower
> power> and fun!
So I hope you'll excuse a bunch of blatantly commercial announcements
to the list, but endulge me this one time and read
on.*************************************************************
> At the show we'll be releasing FlowJo Version 4. We've got new
platforms=
> for overlaying and clustering, we've made it work better across the
> Internet, added all sorts of new conveniences, and spiffed it up with
> the
> new OS X look and feel. What was already the best analysis software
> in flow
> cytometry has gotten a whole lot better.
> At the meeting,
Tree Star is proud to be sponsoring the CyberCafe, your link to home
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> email, surf the web, download the slides you'll be presenting at
> ten. A
> cadre of California companies
> has contributed to bring in a premier local
> roaster to satisfy all your latte urges. We hope you'll all drop by
> and see
> what we mean when we say we're committed to Java. The network is
> going
> wireless this year. Just pop a 802.11 card in your laptop, and while
> your
> neighbor plays solitaire through the keynote, you can be reading e-
> mail.
> We're going to open the CyberCafe with the Second Biennial FlowJo
> Users
> Group Meeting,. Saturday night May 4 at 8PM. The first user group
> meeting
> was cancelled for lack of interest when Dave Novo brought in a case
> and a
> half of French wine, so this year we're going to try real hard to
> assemble
> to the point where we can see the show of hands on something before we
> disband in search of alcohol. We'll have a whole bunch of Macs
> running
> FlowJo v4 under OS X, and you can bring your own data and get into big
> arguments about compensation. Be the first to get the newest FlowJo
> t-****rt.
> All you Windows fans out the**re, come by our booth to see FlowJo
> running on a
> PC! We'll be previewing the long awaited Java version of FlowJo.
> We're
> still not ready to release it, but we'll be giving a peak as to what
> it is
> going to do.
> For those who haven't found it yet, we've unveiled a spanking new
> FlowJo
> website. Flowjo.com is chuck full of new content, functionality and
> spunk.
> Automated price quotes, online ordering, a FAQ that will guide you to
> new
> depths of understanding, and none of that awful yellow on black text.
> The
> search engine even works. No ads & cookie-free. Check it out.
> Specifically, you should check our pricing. Prices are going up on
> May 10.
> It has been a number of years since we've changed our prices and with
> the
> development of the OSX and PC versions, it=B9s time for a leap. I
> guess
> there's no such thing as a free launch. Anyway, this may be a great
> time to
> buy that FlowJo ten pack you've been thinking about. Licenses
> purchased
> before May 10 are entitled to a year of free upgrades, including the
> 4.0
> release.
> Unleash the flower power!
> Adam
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> Tree Star, Inc.
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Claudine, Joachen,
Open a graph, format it (e.g. dot plot, stats, etc.) with the tools
below.
Than (in the same graph window) go to Edit > "Save State to
Preferences".
That will set that graph as a "global" preference, although, only
some
of
the settings. Not the window size. I agree with you: the preferences
files
were much more intuitive and clear. I only know this trick because
Adam
Treister showed me.
Let's hope one day the Windows FlowJo will grow up to its Macintosh
brother.***************************************************************
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Beware, the end is nigh!
No, not an apocalyptic prediction - but 2007 is definitely coming to
an end. Not before time I would say - it s been a busy year. But
I have some strong words to end the year and I am going to say
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frankly, its time to kick some butt as my younger colleagues often
say.
We talk so much like it is the same old cytometry it has always been.
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True we need to do the core work and do it well, but lets not forget
that fundamental tools of cell analysis are changing and if we don't
keep ourselves up-to-date and educated on what's happening....before
we
know it, a new field will emerge and we will be like the old electron
microscopists who are still wondering what happened ......
I know most of us work in the field and like what we do, but I think
its
time to open up a little and try to do some serious integration of
our
field. It s not happening very effectively on the most part I would
say.
Cytometry is about integration of the tools of the field into the
vast
reaches of biological problems that we can contribute to solving.
Cytometry is about advancement of the field, that means always
looking
ahead. ISAC will soon be the International Society for Advancement of
Cytometry a 21st century Society not a 20th century Society.
Cytometry is not flow cytometry!!
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Let s not kid ourselves about thisfolks. Cytometry is about measuring
cells - however you do it - and
flow cytometry is just one component of many.
I understand that it may be the only tool some of you use -
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I don t want to take away from that or de-emphasize its value or
im****tance. But, we so often hear people talk about our field only
in
context of just flow cytometry.
Recently,when we polled the ISAC community on changing our name from
"analytical
Cytology" to Advancement of Cytometry" we received comments like "hey
I don t do flow cytometry, so why are you reducing the breadth of the
field?" Ouch - they think "cytometry" means "flow cytometry". We have
a
long way to go before we convince the community that we cover all
aspects of cytometry. And let s also remember the growing member****p
in
India and China (that s half the worlds population right there)
it
s
high time we paid much more attention to these countries as a field.
Awtar Krishan can t be the only person to drive cytometry training
and
education for 1.2 billion Indians can he? Well he has been up to now.
Who is taking on the mantle of training and education of cytometry in
China?
So here's the scoop. That's one of the reasons why the Purdue Web
****tal
is going to change. We tried to make the change this past year, but
there were too many other things happening here to achieve it. But
come
middle of 2008, I am resolved that you will see a huge difference in
the
Purdue site. It s been the default cytometry communication ****tal now
for many, many years. We have focused on good clean fun with
cytometry
-
quality, timely, simple - no spam. Many people like that actually.
The
****tal is almost overwhelming for us 22,000 daily page requests
with
over 2 Gigs daily download. In 2007 alone, downloads of 208,000
powerpoint files, 233,000 PDF files, 8800 movies, 38,000 word
do***ent
files. The education pages and the Cytometry Discussion Archive are
the
most hit for sure. Over 125,000 distinct files from our ****tal were
accessed in 2007.
But all good things must come to an end. Come July 2008, the usual
Purdue web ****tal may well be no more. It will be replaced with
something entirely new. Hopefully most will find it more useful and
relevant - some will not like it. Maybe we will be able to make
everyone
happy....ha!..C'est la vie. Some of you will be beta testers and
advisers I hope.
So my best wishes to all in the cytometry field for 2008. Regarding
the
past year on the discussion list, its been lively, with an average of
7
messages per day with 754 different individuals submitting at least
one
message. 139 messages had at least 6 responses. There were 1205
unique
subject lines. Subscribers came from 64 top level domains. The usual
bunch of suspects answered lots of messages and Marty Bigos seems to
have too much time as he answered the most (thanks Marty!!).
Tragically,
the second most prolific responder was Randy Fisher who passed away
on
December 5. Randy's responses were always short, to the point and
accurate. It hurts to lose one of our own, particularly when it's one
of
our most active members. But that s the point isn't it. For many
years
to come, we have the value of Randy's hundreds of suggestions over
the
years archived for the many new people who enter our field. Many of
you
probably never actually met Randy - but I bet most of you feel you
knew
him. One of the mysteries of the web I suppose. Our condolences to
Randy's family - perhaps they didn't know how many people knew Randy
"electronically" - but we all did. You know we are a small field when
it
comes to the big world of science so when we lose one person, the
entire
field morns.
To end 2007, let me make a big plug for a program we began at the
2006
ISAC congress. Gary Durack from iCyt and myself started a small
not-for-profit charity called "Cytometry for Life" in response to
Stephen Lewis' compelling plea for some low cost CD4 devices. Our
field
has done a lot of talking about this, but only a few people have
really
tried to do anything practical. Well, folks we have all been doing
cytometry for a very long time - it's time to do something.
"Cytometry
for life" (http://www.cytometryforlife.org)
is working hard. We have
made tremendous progress in just one year. It would be great if you
all
decided to jump on board and play a small part. You can give money,
advice, moral sup****t, talk to your politicians, community health-
care,
charities, whatever. But get involved as be recognized as the
cytometry
community to solve this problem of bringing low cost, ****table
devices
to the 65% or more of African's who don t live in the cities and
towns
where current CD4 technologies are available. Our goal is to work in
areas not being served by current technologies. We have heard these
calls before, but folks we have to deal with this problem - it's your
problem if you call yourself a "cytometry" person. Email me if you
can
help - consider donating to the program, let's make it work. By the
end
of 2008, I want to be telling you that the program is getting to
people
who need this desperately. Help us achieve that for 2008.
I hope many of you got hold of a copy of our new double DVD set
Cytometry 60 years of Innovation if not ask your local rep from
virtually any company in our field. It might give you a good sense of
how strong the foundation in our field really is. I will see many of
you
at the 2008 congress in Budapest. I know some of you think its going
to
be expensive so I took several hours myself and created a webpage for
the cheap ones out there so you have no excuses not to go...
(http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/flowcyt/cheapflights1.htm).
It's been a privilege to serve for the past 19 months as President of
ISAC. I will gladly pass that hat to Bob Murphy in May. ISAC is alive
and well - member****p is growing daily. I would not be surprised to
see
us top 2000 by the end of the Congress in May. I know that about 60%
of
the members of this list are NOT ISAC members. Perhaps you should
consider joining the Society that keeps many of you in business?
http://www.isac-net.org/
My best wishes for you all in 2008 from Purdue
Paul
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Professor of Immunopharmacology & Biomedical Engineering
Director, Purdue University Cytometry Laboratories
President, International Society for Analytical Cytology
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Bindley Bioscience Center
1203 West State Street
Discovery Park, Purdue University
West Lafayette, IN 47907-2057
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NIH Funding
Another thread from Purdue worth posting:
We are calling upon you again during this Independence Day holiday
period to ask you to contact your Representative in person at a local
event or by telephone to the local office by July 9th. When Congress
returns to Wa****ngton after the 4th of July recess, the House of
Representatives will consider a 1.9% increase to the NIH budget.
Between now and then, you have the op****tunity to remind your
Representative of the im****tance of your work and let them know about
any difficulties you have encountered because of shrinking budgets.
Members of Congress have told us that they are not hearing from
researchers in the community. We must turn this around. Members and
their staffs are receptive to hearing from researchers about how the
proposed FY 2008 budget will affect their research and their careers.
Please contact your Representative either in person at a local
Independence Day event or by telephone before July 9th. Tell them
your
story and let them know that they must make cancer and biomedical
research funding a national priority.
In your contact with your Representative, please mention any of the
research challenges you are facing at this time, for example: -
denials
or delays in getting grant funding for meritorious research
-the impact of cuts to grants already funded
-staffing and equipment shortages
-the loss of bright young investigators to other fields
-reduced op****tunities for patients to get on therapeutic clinical
trials
-cancellation or halting of im****tant clinical trials.
In short, your Representative needs to hear about the serious effect
these low budgets are having on your research progress. Urge them to
make cancer research funding a national priority. A few minutes of
your time could help get NIH and NCI funding back on track.
Thank you for responding to this request and have an enjoyable
holiday.
William N. Hait, M.D., Ph.D., President
William G. Nelson V, M.D., Ph.D., Chair, Science Policy & Legislative
Affairs Committee
Margaret Foti, Ph.D., M.D. (h.c.), Chief Executive Officer
P.S. Please let AACR know you have made a contact with your
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US ISAC members - Please write your senator
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Colleagues: If you are in the USA, please consider sending your
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and letters - this is
a $7 billion addition to the budget. It is vital that we maintain NIH
funding - Many ISAC members
are dependent upon quality reseach funding.
J. Paul Robinson
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Laura Teodori - Candidate for Biological Cytometry Councilor
Goals and Objectives
My efforts, in case of election, will be directed towards the
implementation of flow and imaging cytometric bioassays within
several
emerging environments like immunotoxicology, biotechnology,
predictive
medicine, occupational and s****ts medicine.
In my view, it is also very im****tant to address problems of
standardization, quality *****sment and quality control in cell
function assays as they come more and more into clinical use.
My further interests concern instrument miniaturization and
development of point of care flow processors as medical and
biotechnological challenges within ISAC.
My efforts will also be devoted to the educational work by
implementing and, if necessary, stimulating the introduction of new
learning tools as e.g. the advanced information communication
technology (ICT) for e-learning.
My activity will also be focused to make ISAC the preferred forum of
exchange of information and ideas between cell and molecular
biologists and the individuals interested in development and
improvement of the cytometric instrumentation and methodologies.
I sup****t the goals and objectives of this coalition.
If you vote for me for Biological Cytometry Councilor, please also
vote for J. Paul Robinson for President-elect and for Bob Zucker for
Secretary. Together we have carefully considered how we can serve
ISAC
as an executive team. We have thought through the issues and we think
we have good ideas.
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> "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> paul
>> For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace. Don't
>> wet your
>> pocket protectors over this.
>> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star group:
>> http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/roederer
>>> _______________________
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I knew that I should not have taken Mario's bait....but its
been a long summer.....!
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> I use Macs exclusively. Between home and labs, I have 7.
> I hate Windows (I tell everyone, I don't do Windows).
> Macs are what Windows wishes it could do. OS X is rock-solid,
> especially Jaguar (OS 10.3).
> BD guys-get with it and release CellQuest Pro for OS X!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> Oh, and Macs are way more photogenic. They look especially cool next
> to your flow cytometer. I just bought a new dual-boot G4 with
> flat-panel display for my flow.
> Beverly
> Beverly E. Barton, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Department of Surgery/Division of Urology
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> > ummm....Mario says..
> > "In life sciences -- particularly in research life sciences --
> > probably 50 to 70% of research laboratories used
> > Macs"....while I have a passionate dislike for Windows......is
> > this really true ??? or is the key word there "used"?? (Ok...I
> > have put on my helmet and armor....waiting...)
> > paul
> >> For all of the mr groupies out there in cytometry cyberspace. Don't
> >> wet your
> >> pocket protectors over this.
> >> Honestly though, well deserved praise for Mario & the Tree Star
group:
> >> http://www.apple.com/science/profiles/roederer
> >>> _______________________
> >>> Calman Prussin
> >>> Laboratory of Allergic Diseases
> >>> NIAID/ National Institutes of Health
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> >> (NIAID) shall not accept liability for any statements that are the
> >> senders own
> >> and not expressly made on behalf of the NIAID by one of its
> >> representatives.
> > J.Paul Robinson, PhD PH:(765)4940757
> > Professor of Immunopharmacology
> > Professor of Biomedical Engineering
> > Purdue University FAX:(765)4940517
> > EMAIL:j...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > WEB: http://www.cyto.purdue.edu
> > Have you seen our new HCS webpage?
> > http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hcs
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Date: Fri Feb 08 2008 - 21:09:54 EST
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From: Ray Hicks <rhi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri Feb 08 2008 - 21:09:54 EST
Hi Dan,
you can filter on the "To:" field, it should contain "Cytometry
Mailing
List". If you hit reply, then you reply to the individual, but if
you
hit
"Reply to All" then a copy gets sent to the list (you'll also find
out
who's
out of their offices as their auto- responders kick in :P)
Cheers
Ray
From: Roberts, Daniel [mailto:Daniel.Robe...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:12 PM
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Subject: Filtering Incomming messages
I am new to the mailing list, and noticed that emails filter in under
individual email addresses. Is there a handy way to have the emails
be
filtered to a subfolder? I guess I am wondering if there is a
'hidden'
email
that they are all redirected to.
Also, when replying to an inquiry (say from Joe.sm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
), if I
hit
reply, would it go to the dist list, or just Joe Smith?
Thanks,
Dan
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From: David.C.McFarl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:06 AM
To: Cytometry Mailing List
Subject: Re: FloJo and DiVa file IDs
Ray,
I had this discussion with BD a while ago. This is something that
blindsided me. We actually have an SOP that we follow for tube IDs
such that they are all unique. Basically, we use accession numbers
of
the format FCM00001 for experiment names and then the tube IDs would
be FCM00001_001, etc. In the older versions of Diva, this was the
"FCS" file name that showed up in the folder when experiments were
ex****ted. However, those weren't "real" FCS files. Evidently,
people
were trying to im****t these bogus FCS files back into Diva, or
elsewhere, and it was creating errors. In their infinite wisdom,
BD's
fix was to change the names of these files to something
unrecognizable
to the users so that they wouldn't be tempted to do that. They have
a
system of generating their own pseudo-unique IDs in this manner. I
say pseudo-unique, because it isn't clear to me where/how the
numbering starts if, for instance, you have several instruments
running Diva in the same lab, or if upgrade to a new version by doing
a clean install. Or perhaps the machine crashes. Can the numbering
be set to pick up where if left off? I think what they really mean
is
unique to that particular incarnation of the database on that local
machine which isn't unique enough in my mind. This really screwed up
my system. So asked the same question you just did, "Is there a way
to retain my Tube IDs and/or can I configure Diva to use the same
unique filenaming convention that I do". Of course, the answer was
no. Even worse, even if you ex****t as FCS files, although
recognizable, the files aren't exactly the same as the entered ID.
The specimen name and an underscore are added before the tube ID and
".fcs" is added to the end. This is more aggravation for me to deal
with in regard to data management in a GLP setting. It's too bad.
We
like ex****ting entire experiments for archiving purposes, but it is
easier to reconcile file name/tube ID discrepancies when ex****ted as
FCS, so we will probably have to make a change. At present we've
just
been adding a file note to the archive do***ents and explaining that
the original naming scheme will reappear when im****ted back into
Diva. This isn't entirely true when FCS files are im****ted into Diva
since you have to im****t them into an open experiment, which could be
named differently than the ex****ted FCS files. Again this is an
issue
for me in a GLP validated instrument setting and would warrant more
workarounds or further explanation as to why reim****ted raw data
doesn't look "exactly" as it did when collected.
Let me know if you here anything different from what I've told you as
the situation seems to change frequently and this may no be the most
current info.
Regards,
Dave
David McFarland
Principal Scientist
GlaxoSmithKline
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Subject FloJo and DiVa file IDs
Can someone tell us how to ex****t DiVa files as 'Experiments', not as
'FCS files', so that the individual tubes within the 'Experiment'
retain
their specific identities, e.g., 'T4/8', rather than some numerical
value, e.g., '2437'. When we ex****t DiVa data as 'FCS files', the
specific tube ID is retained.
We have a FloJo 7.1 USB dongle and it's being used primarily on PCs.
Thanks.
Ray Hester
Univ. of South Alabama
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