On Jun 19, 4:18=C2=A0pm, "Alfred E. Newman" <MyMa...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jun 18, 5:40=C2=A0pm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
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> > On Jun 18, 5:04=EF=BF=BDpm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 18, 3:53=EF=BF=BDpm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > > > 'The person most likely to kill you is not a relative or a friend,
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or
> > > > a mugger or a burglar or a drunken driver. The person most likely
t=
o
> > > > kill you is your doctor."
> > > > =EF=BF=BD (Vernon Coleman) =EF=BF=BDauthor, =EF=BF=BDWhat Doctors
D=
on't Tell You
>
> > > > Let us prey.
>
> > > > Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA every
year.=
..
> > > > You may be safer in an outdoord shopping market in Baghdad than
you
> > > > are in an American doctors office or an American hospital..
>
> > > Yes, I know. =EF=BF=BDThat's one of the many reasons I avoid going
to=
the
> > > doctor despite the "wonders" of modern "scientific" medicine.
=EF=BF=
=BDYou
> > > know, I really think anyone with inclinations to serial killing
shoul=
d
> > > simply go the Medical School. =EF=BF=BDHe/She could kill as many
peop=
le as
> > > they want to, and get paid big bucks to do it. =EF=BF=BDAlso, he/she
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wouldn't
> > > have to worry about getting caught. =EF=BF=BDIt's expected.
=EF=BF=BD=
Just part of the
> > > job.
>
> > > Then again, maybe that's exactly what serial killers with brains do.
> > > Could explain some of the doctors I've run into, over the years.
>
> > PAGE II
>
> > This is the way of the
> > New Religion - Medicine.
>
> > Doctors are the high priests of this new religion. =C2=A0I call it a
> > religion because of the fanatical devotion that people in the West
> > give, and are expected to give, to this institution. =C2=A0People are
> > expected to consult their doctors before they do anything....from
> > taking a walk around the block to putting their children to bed at
> > night.
>
> > Faith is an essential element in any religion. =C2=A0The religion of
> > Medicine is no different. =C2=A0When a person goes to their doctor,
the=
y
> > must first have faith that their doctor actually is a licensed
> > physician. =C2=A0In the past three or four decades, many cases have
com=
e
> > to light in which the doctor had not even been to medical school and
> > had
> > still somehow obtained a license. =C2=A0Also, in many cases, doctors
wh=
o
> > have had criminal prosecutions or judgments against them have still
> > been able to practice medicine in other states or countries.
=C2=A0Very
> > few people will go to the trouble to check and make sure that their
> > doctor actually went to medical school, obtained a degree, was granted
> > a
> > license, and has never been prosecuted or convicted of malpractice.
> > Most people just take it on faith that this has occurred. =C2=A0Wise
up=
..
>
> > Congress knows all about it but the medicine men have the corrupt
> > politicians in their greedy pockets.
>
> > The "right ... to petition the government" has come a long way in
> > over 200 years, and health care organizations are not shy in
> > exercising
> > it. "Those who are organized, have the most money, the most
> > influence,
> > the most mobilized member****ps are the ones whose viewpoints are
> > being
> > most heard."
>
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 -- Charles Lewis
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Founder, Executive Director, Center for
Pub=
lic Integrity,
> > =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 in a speech to the National Press Club,
199=
4
>
>
>http://www.managedcaremag.com/archives/0208/0208.lobbying.htmlhttp://...
>
> > The Family Doctor: The Worst Offender
> > Q. Do we really need these expensive prima donna GPs in the United
> > States?
> > A. Hell no. We can replace these greedy doctors with well trained
> > nurses for many reasons.
>
> > Are "General Practitioners" or "GPs" overrated, overpaid and
> > overwhelmed with too many patients? Can well trained nurses perform
> > the same duties as the GPs and at a much lower cost? After all, the
> > GP really does nothing more than attempt to diagnose a patient's
> > problem
> > and then send him/her on to someone else to fix the problem. The GP
> > is simply just the usher or maitre d' for the patient. Until the
> > patient
> > has been blood tested or x-rayed by someone other than the GP, it is
> > strictly guess work for the family doctor who does little that a well
> > qualified nurse cannot do for the same patient.
>
> > The office nurse has already taken the temperature and blood pressure
> > of the patient before the doctor even enters the picture. And a good
> > nurse with lots of hospital experience may be better qualified than
> > the doctor to advise the patient. Also, the nurse generally knows
> > much more about the medications and their interactions with other
> > drugs
> > than the doctor who relies on what he was told by the pharmacy
> > company pimp.
>
> > Public opinion about doctors' pay
> > CE Ross and J Lauritsen
>
> > Public opinion about doctors' incomes was examined in a national
> > random =C2=A0sample of 843 respondents; 70.1 per cent of those
question=
ed
> > felt physicians are overpaid. There was a high degree of agreement
> > among various groups that physicians are overpaid, but older people
> > and Whites were more likely to think so than younger people and other
> > ethnic groups. People who believe that the United States is
> > characterized by unequal educational op****tunity, unfair income
> > distribution, and limited resources were also more likely to think
> > physicians are overpaid.
>
> > Recent polls now show that the public now has more faith in lawyers
> > than in American doctors.
>
> > Especially the GPs
>
> > NATIONAL CENTER FOR POLICY ANALYSIS
> > =C2=A0Many Patients Prefer Nurses To Doctors
> > =C2=A0Daily Policy Digest
> > =C2=A0Health Issues / Medical Personnel
>
> > Since the days of Florence Nightingale, there has been a debate over
> > which medical tasks a nurse should perform. Trained nurse
> > practitioners offer primary care that appears to be just as good as
> > what doctors can provide, say researchers. Findings: Nurses spent more
> > time with patients.
> > Nurses conducted more tests. Patients did no better or worse when they
> > saw a nurse instead of a doctor. However, patients treated by nurses
> > were more satisfied with their care.
>
> > Nurses cannot completely replace doctors; but for patients wi****ng
> > same-day medical care nurse practitioners provide a very good
> > standard
> > of care, according to study.
>
> > The American Medical Association opposes independent practice by
> > nurse practitioners, although it recommends that doctors work in
> > close
> > collaboration with them. The AMA's president-elect, Yank D. Coble
> > Jr., said a British study fails to account for the fact that most
> > primary-
> > care patients aren't very sick. Coble says nurses simply don't have
> > the rigorous scientific background needed for subtle or complex
> > illnesses.
>
> > However, nurse practitioner advocates point out that not every
> > physician is trained in every disease. General practitioners routinely
> > refer patients to physicians with specialized knowledge; nurse
> > practitioners could easily do likewise.
>
> > Source: Daniel DeNoon, "Many Patients Prefer Nurses to Doctors,"
> > WebMD,
>
> > April 4, 2002; Sue Horrocks, Elizabeth Anderson, and Chris Salisbury,
> > "Systematic Review of Whether Nurse Practitioners Working in Primary
> > Care Can Provide Equivalent Care to Doctors," British Medical
> > Journal,
> > April 6, 2002.
> > 12770 Coit Rd., Suite 800 - Dallas, TX 75251-1339 - 972/386-6272 -
> > Fax
> > 972/386-0924
> > 601 Pennsylvania Ave. ...
>
> > For text Medical Personnelhttp://www.ncpa.org/iss/hea/
>
> > Objective: To determine whether nurse practitioners can provide care
> > at first point of contact equivalent to doctors in a primary care
> > setting.
>
> > Conclusion: Increasing availability of nurse practitioners in primary
> > care is likely to lead to high levels of patient satisfaction and
> > high quality
care.http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/324/7341/=
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>
> > No other profession is as corrupt and dangerous as the medical
> > industry.
>
> > We are blackmailed by the family doctor. I decided that I should see a
> > urologist to check my prostate. However, I could not make an
> > appointment until I had my family doctor refer me to the urologist. I
> > called and asked for the referal and was told by the palace guard on
> > the other end of the phone that the doctor wanted me to come in and
> > discuss it with him. The visit would be $75.00 just to have his
> > appointment secretary call the urologist.
>
> > Only the doctor can get you entered into a hospital and release you
> > And only the doctor can write a prescription even though his nusre
> > probably knows more about the drug than her boss does.
>
> > All he knows is about the drug is what the pimp from the pharmcutical
> > company told him. And, if you know any of these pimps personally ask
> > them what they have to do for the doctors to get them to use his
> > product. I recently talked to a friend of mine who pimps for a large
> > company and he told me that he had to buy a certain local doctor a set
> > of expensive golf clubs or the whore doctor would refuse to see him on
> > further visits.
>
> > Talk about Gangsters in Medicine..OY VAY
>
> > L'Shalom
>
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> =C2=A0If you look a little deeper into the situation, the death caused
by
> Doctors
> may be much higher. If you take into account that the FDA is run by a
> panel
> of Doctors. If you take into account all the side effects from the
> drugs that
> they have approved over the last twenty years. They are the ("# 1")
> cause !!
>
> "Now don't you feel better knowing that your Doctor is pu****ng drugs
> down your throut",
> for profit. Not giving a Damn about there patients" ? Don't worry,
> they don't want you to die,
> they just don't want you to get well ! But 10% do Die.
>
> IMO, They country has to collapes to clean it's self from tyrony.
> Because the country has
> Cancer, and it's eatting away at good moral judgement ! Are you
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Posted by White Coat, Black Art on March 17 at 09:42 AM
The scale and impact of medical errors are staggering.
'The person most likely to kill you is not a relative or a friend,
or
a mugger or a burglar or a drunken driver. The person most likely to
kill you is your doctor."
(Vernon Coleman) author, What Doctors Don't Tell You
For those of you who want to sue your doctor, we'll give you an
insider's look at what you're up against as you try to win your day in
court.
In 1999, the US-based Institute of Medicine published a re****t on
medical errors at American hospitals. The re****t was entitled "To Err
Is Human." No one is perfect, right? So, why would you expect the
people who take care of your health needs to be any different?
The scale and impact of medical errors are staggering. The US re****t
estimated as many as 98,000 people die in hospital each year as the
result of preventable human errors. And Canadian hospitals are not
necessarily safer. In 2007, a re****t on patient safety by Canadian
Institute for Health Information (CIHI) found that 1 in 10 patients
receive the wrong medication or the wrong dose, and another 1 in 10
contract an infection (often a superbug) while in hospital. What is
most concerning is just how inured the people who work inside the
system are to medical mistakes. The CIHI re****t found that more than 7
in 10 nurses and nearly 8 in 10 hospital managers say patients are
likely to have a serious medical error while receiving treatment at a
Canadian hospital.
This week, on White Coat, Black Art, we present some jarringly honest
confessions from doctors and nurses on the front lines who have made
medical errors. All of us -- me too -- have done things or have
neglected to do things that have cost people their well being and in
some cases their lives. Some of those stories will make you angry.
But, it is my hope that those confessions will make you understand
something that the media with its "outside-in" perspective often fails
to tell -- that medical errors are also devastating to the doctors and
nurse and pharmacists and others who commit them. I want to thank
those who were brave enough to tell their stories on the show.
But there's more to the show than mere confessions. Seventy years ago,
airplanes became more complex and harder to fly. As a result, pilot
error and accident rates went up. That's when the fledgling military
and civilian airline industry came to an im****tant conclusion: that
they'd have to find ways to make flying safer, or accident rates would
climb. Over the years, billions of dollars and untold hours have gone
into creating what's known as a "culture of safety" in flying. The
result? Accident rates are considered acceptably low.
This may surprise and anger you, but there is no such "culture of
safety" in hospitals. Avi Parush, a human factors engineer who once
helped design fighter aircraft cockpits to make them safer for pilots
to operate, has turned his attention to make things safer in a
hospital operating room. Parush says it is only now that experts are
starting to look at the way doctors and hospitals operate to find ways
to reduce preventable errors. I found Parush's interview both
revealing and troubling.
And next week, for those of you who want to sue your doctor, we'll
give you an insider's look at what you're up against as you try to win
your day in court.
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