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Re: Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA every

by Raymond <Bluerhymer@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 18, 2008 at 02:40 PM

On Jun 18, 5:04=EF=BF=BDpm, Jerry Kraus <jkraus_1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Jun 18, 3:53=EF=BF=BDpm, Raymond <Bluerhy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > 'The person most likely to kill you is not a relative or a friend, or
> > a mugger or a burglar or a drunken driver. The person most likely to
> > kill you is your doctor."
> > =EF=BF=BD (Vernon Coleman) =EF=BF=BDauthor, =EF=BF=BDWhat Doctors
Don't=
 Tell You
>
> > Let us prey.
>
> > Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA every year..
> > You may be safer in an outdoord shopping market in Baghdad than you
> > are in an American doctors office or an American hospital..
>
> Yes, I know. =EF=BF=BDThat's one of the many reasons I avoid going to
the
> doctor despite the "wonders" of modern "scientific" medicine.
=EF=BF=BDYo=
u
> know, I really think anyone with inclinations to serial killing should
> simply go the Medical School. =EF=BF=BDHe/She could kill as many people
a=
s
> they want to, and get paid big bucks to do it. =EF=BF=BDAlso, he/she
woul=
dn't
> have to worry about getting caught. =EF=BF=BDIt's expected.
=EF=BF=BDJust=
 part of the
> job.
>
> Then again, maybe that's exactly what serial killers with brains do.
> Could explain some of the doctors I've run into, over the years.

PAGE II

This is the way of the
New Religion - Medicine.

Doctors are the high priests of this new religion.  I call it a
religion because of the fanatical devotion that people in the West
give, and are expected to give, to this institution.  People are
expected to consult their doctors before they do anything....from
taking a walk around the block to putting their children to bed at
night.

Faith is an essential element in any religion.  The religion of
Medicine is no different.  When a person goes to their doctor, they
must first have faith that their doctor actually is a licensed
physician.  In the past three or four decades, many cases have come
to light in which the doctor had not even been to medical school and
had
still somehow obtained a license.  Also, in many cases, doctors who
have had criminal prosecutions or judgments against them have still
been able to practice medicine in other states or countries.  Very
few people will go to the trouble to check and make sure that their
doctor actually went to medical school, obtained a degree, was granted
a
license, and has never been prosecuted or convicted of malpractice.
Most people just take it on faith that this has occurred.  Wise up.

Congress knows all about it but the medicine men have the corrupt
politicians in their greedy pockets.

The "right ... to petition the government" has come a long way in
over 200 years, and health care organizations are not shy in
exercising
it. "Those who are organized, have the most money, the most
influence,
the most mobilized member****ps are the ones whose viewpoints are
being
most heard."

        -- Charles Lewis
        Founder, Executive Director, Center for Public Integrity,
        in a speech to the National Press Club, 1994

http://www.managedcaremag.com/archives/0208/0208.lobbying.html
http://www.unhinderedliving.com/newreligion.html

The Family Doctor: The Worst Offender
Q. Do we really need these expensive prima donna GPs in the United
States?
A. Hell no. We can replace these greedy doctors with well trained
nurses for many reasons.

Are "General Practitioners" or "GPs" overrated, overpaid and
overwhelmed with too many patients? Can well trained nurses perform
the same duties as the GPs and at a much lower cost? After all, the
GP really does nothing more than attempt to diagnose a patient's
problem
and then send him/her on to someone else to fix the problem. The GP
is simply just the usher or maitre d' for the patient. Until the
patient
has been blood tested or x-rayed by someone other than the GP, it is
strictly guess work for the family doctor who does little that a well
qualified nurse cannot do for the same patient.

The office nurse has already taken the temperature and blood pressure
of the patient before the doctor even enters the picture. And a good
nurse with lots of hospital experience may be better qualified than
the doctor to advise the patient. Also, the nurse generally knows
much more about the medications and their interactions with other
drugs
than the doctor who relies on what he was told by the pharmacy
company pimp.

Public opinion about doctors' pay
CE Ross and J Lauritsen

Public opinion about doctors' incomes was examined in a national
random  sample of 843 respondents; 70.1 per cent of those questioned
felt physicians are overpaid. There was a high degree of agreement
among various groups that physicians are overpaid, but older people
and Whites were more likely to think so than younger people and other
ethnic groups. People who believe that the United States is
characterized by unequal educational op****tunity, unfair income
distribution, and limited resources were also more likely to think
physicians are overpaid.

Recent polls now show that the public now has more faith in lawyers
than in American doctors.

Especially the GPs

NATIONAL CENTER FOR POLICY ANALYSIS
 Many Patients Prefer Nurses To Doctors
 Daily Policy Digest
 Health Issues / Medical Personnel

Since the days of Florence Nightingale, there has been a debate over
which medical tasks a nurse should perform. Trained nurse
practitioners offer primary care that appears to be just as good as
what doctors can provide, say researchers. Findings: Nurses spent more
time with patients.
Nurses conducted more tests. Patients did no better or worse when they
saw a nurse instead of a doctor. However, patients treated by nurses
were more satisfied with their care.

Nurses cannot completely replace doctors; but for patients wi****ng
same-day medical care nurse practitioners provide a very good
standard
of care, according to study.

The American Medical Association opposes independent practice by
nurse practitioners, although it recommends that doctors work in
close
collaboration with them. The AMA's president-elect, Yank D. Coble
Jr., said a British study fails to account for the fact that most
primary-
care patients aren't very sick. Coble says nurses simply don't have
the rigorous scientific background needed for subtle or complex
illnesses.

However, nurse practitioner advocates point out that not every
physician is trained in every disease. General practitioners routinely
refer patients to physicians with specialized knowledge; nurse
practitioners could easily do likewise.

Source: Daniel DeNoon, "Many Patients Prefer Nurses to Doctors,"
WebMD,

April 4, 2002; Sue Horrocks, Elizabeth Anderson, and Chris Salisbury,
"Systematic Review of Whether Nurse Practitioners Working in Primary
Care Can Provide Equivalent Care to Doctors," British Medical
Journal,
April 6, 2002.
12770 Coit Rd., Suite 800 - Dallas, TX 75251-1339 - 972/386-6272 -
Fax
972/386-0924
601 Pennsylvania Ave. ...

For text Medical Personnel
http://www.ncpa.org/iss/hea/

Objective: To determine whether nurse practitioners can provide care
at first point of contact equivalent to doctors in a primary care
setting.

Conclusion: Increasing availability of nurse practitioners in primary
care is likely to lead to high levels of patient satisfaction and
high quality care.
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/324/7341/819

No other profession is as corrupt and dangerous as the medical
industry.

We are blackmailed by the family doctor. I decided that I should see a
urologist to check my prostate. However, I could not make an
appointment until I had my family doctor refer me to the urologist. I
called and asked for the referal and was told by the palace guard on
the other end of the phone that the doctor wanted me to come in and
discuss it with him. The visit would be $75.00 just to have his
appointment secretary call the urologist.

Only the doctor can get you entered into a hospital and release you
And only the doctor can write a prescription even though his nusre
probably knows more about the drug than her boss does.

All he knows is about the drug is what the pimp from the pharmcutical
company told him. And, if you know any of these pimps personally ask
them what they have to do for the doctors to get them to use his
product. I recently talked to a friend of mine who pimps for a large
company and he told me that he had to buy a certain local doctor a set
of expensive golf clubs or the whore doctor would refuse to see him on
further visits.

Talk about Gangsters in Medicine..OY VAY

L'Shalom

Stay well.
 




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Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA every ye
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-06-18 13:53:57 
Re: Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA ever
Jerry Kraus <jkraus_19  2008-06-18 14:04:14 
Re: Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA ever
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-06-18 14:40:57 
Re: Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA ever
"Alfred E. Newman&qu  2008-06-18 21:43:40 
Re: Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA ever
"Alfred E. Newman&qu  2008-06-19 13:18:55 
Re: Doctors are the third leading cause of death in the USA ever
Raymond <Bluerhymer@[E  2008-06-19 13:29:03 

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