Talk About Network

Google





Health > Health Fasting > Re: Question fo...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 6 of 41 Topic 421 of 471
Post > Topic >>

Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?

by Mark Probert <markprobert@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 14, 2007 at 03:35 AM

the_blogologist wrote:
> <show@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> Would suggest also considering the information here before deciding to
>> undertake a "flush":
>>
>> '   The Truth about Liver and Gallbladder "Flushes"'
>>
>> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/flushes.html
> 
> This site lost all credibility with me when I discovered they labeled
> Professor Andrew C. Ivy (which they refer to as "Dr. Andrew Ivy") as a
> quack. They do admit he was "formerly at Northwestern and then the
> vice-president of the University of Illinois." so obviously he had at
> least one PHD and was in charge of other PHDs who taught medical school.
> 
> Since the defination of "quack" is supposed to be someone who pretends
> to have skills he does not posses, then i'd say if Professor Ivy is a
> quack, then so are 99% of all doctors.
> 
> Professor Ivy is one of many doctors run out of practice, prosicuted and
> discredited for competing with big medical cash cows:
> 
> http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/krebiozen.html
> 
The Krebiozen Story
James F. Holland, M.D.
My definition of cancer quackery is the deliberate misapplication of a 
diagnostic or treatment procedure in a patient with cancer. Those who 
misapply diagnostic or treatment methods unknowingly may be honestly 
mistaken, inept, or fools. But the culprit who victimizes his fellow man 
with cancer, impeding the patient's access to available therapies or 
constructive investigation, all the while greedily enriching himself, is 
a quack, a criminal, a jackal among men who deserves the scorn and 
ostracism of society. Because human life is at stake, he must be
controlled.

Background History
In about 1944, a Yugoslavian refugee doctor, Dr. Stevan Durovic, with 
his industrialist brother, Marko, established the Instituto Biologica 
Duga in Buenos Aires. In 1949, he brought to the United States a 
substance named kositerin, allegedly isolated from beef blood and 
supposedly useful in the treatment of high blood pressure. He came to 
Chicago to Dr. Roscoe Miller of Northwestern University, intending that 
kositerin be tested in high blood pressure. I have found nothing 
published on the results of this trial, in animals or in humans, and 
presumably it was negative.

Later on, Dr. Miller referred Dr. Durovic to Dr. Andrew Ivy, formerly at 
Northwestern and then the vice-president of the University of Illinois. 
Having come with kositerin from beef blood for hypertension, and not 
mentioning any other substance to Dr. Ivy on their first meeting, Dr. 
Durovic just happened to have available for him 2000 mg of material he 
stated came from the blood of horses that had been inoculated with 
Actinomyces bovis. Since later statements of Dr. Durovic indicate that 
only 1 mg of krebiozen, then called substance X, came from each horse, 
we are left to conclude that substance X was produced from 2,000 horses. 
It has been suggested, however, that it was a backup scheme produced by 
one man if kositerin was not a success. Dr. Durovic met Dr. Ivy and told 
him after their first meeting, when presumably each man took the measure 
of the other, that he had a substance X from stimulated horses. Dr. ivy 
found the idea attractive because it fit with the views he held on 
chemical substances that must be present in the body to control growth. 
Indeed, that basic concept -- that there must be internal control of 
growth in the body -- is not unique with Dr. Ivy, but is shared by many 
and has been the basis of much commendable research.

Invalid Research
Dr. Durovic told Dr. Ivy his substance was active and -- as Durovic 
wrote in 1961 in the magazine Today's Japan Orient/West -- that he had 
treated 12 dogs and cats with spontaneous cancer with krebiozen. Within 
6 months, 7 of these animals were "cleared" of cancer and the remaining 
5 were improved. He also stated that based on the activity in 
spontaneous tumors in dogs, the unit dose was established as 10 
micrograms (µg). Dr. Ivy studied the protocols of the experiments with 
only 4 or 5 dogs and cats. At this time, Dr. Durovic had not told him 
the name of the mold or how he made the extract, since it was a 
"commercial secret."

Dr. Ivy testified at his recent trial that without repeating the 
experiments, without previously having heard of Dr. Durovic as a 
scientist, without having seen analyses or manufacturing records or 
without knowing what was in the ampules, except for Dr. Durovic's word, 
he proceeded. He said at the trial, "I will be the first next to Dr. 
Durovic, the first human being who has taken the medicine." He did so, 
and then he gave it to his associate Dr. Krasnow in late August or early 
September, 1949. After injecting himself, Dr. Krasnow, and one dog, and 
without it occurring to him (he testified) that the alleged substance X 
might be a hoax, Dr. Ivy injected the first patient on August 20, 1949. 
The clinical trial was continued by colleagues and physicians in the 
ensuing months. On March 27, 1951, Dr. Ivy decided to announce his 
findings, but he did not do this to a scientific audience. A press 
conference was held in the Drake Hotel to which the science writers of 
four Chicago papers, the Mayor of Chicago, two United States Senators, 
and potential financial sup****ters were invited, in addition to some 
doctors. Results on 22 patients were presented. Of the 22, 8 were dead, 
according to the table in a booklet distributed at the meeting, but in 
not a single instance was cancer listed as the cause of death. In each 
of the 8 instances, however, as was brought out at the trial, the 
patient died with and of cancer. Furthermore, 2 more of the 22 patients 
had died, one 7 days and one 2 days prior to the meeting, both from 
cancer. Dr. W.F.P. Phillips, a colleague of Dr. Ivy's, attended the 
meeting. His patient had died two days before, but he didn't mention it 
at the meeting. The description in the summary still stood as: 
"dramatical clinical improvement. Now working all day without opiates. 
Patient had to be carried, couldn't walk."

This remarkable description, uncorrected by Dr. Phillips or anyone else, 
described a twenty-week course from the onset of treatment to death. Dr. 
John Pick, a colleague of Dr. Ivy's, attended the meeting. The second 
patient was Dr. Pick's own wife, who had died seven days previously from 
breast cancer, but the description in the summary was allowed to stand 
"had much pain and mild icterus [jaundice]. Local and abdominal 
metastases have regressed; much improvement." This was a fifteen-week 
course from initiation of treatment until death. Dr. Ivy, who certainly 
knew of Mrs. Pick's death, did not see fit to mention it at the meeting. 
Dr. Ivy testified that because no one at the Drake Hotel meeting asked 
whether the patients listed were living or dead, he did not believe 
there was any obligation upon him as a scientist, doing a scientific 
investigation, to tell them they were dead. What kind of medical 
research, critical analysis, scientific re****ting and integrity is this?

Immediate attempts to confirm the observations re****ted by Dr. Ivy were 
undertaken by cancer research centers and universities throughout the 
country. In 9 institutions, no evidence of activity was found. In the 
tenth hospital, preliminary observations suggested some activity, but on 
continuing the study and reappraising their entire work, the 
investigators found no evidence of any im****tant effect on cancer and 
discontinued the study. A compilation of the multi- institutional 
negative data was made and re****ted in the Journal of the American 
Medical Association in 1951. Dr. Ivy had been counseled by a friend that 
his position was mistaken, that the data he had re****ted at the Drake 
Hotel press conference were not sup****table, that no confirmation of 
findings was forthcoming from experts studying the material, and that he 
should withdraw or correct his erroneous position. But this course 
wasn't to be followed. Instead, the krebiozen backers howled 
conspiracy!" They said the American Medical Association and the American 
Cancer Society were conspiring to keep krebiozen off the market, either 
to delay the advent of effective cancer treatment or to force the 
Krebiozen Foundation to cut them in on the windfall which was to be 
expected.

Dishonest Re****ting
Over the ensuing years, while the Foundation and those of like 
persuasion carried on a propaganda campaign of some persuasiveness to 
those grasping at a last straw, the number of patients treated with 
krebiozen mounted. In the re****t on krebiozen, 1962, published by the 
Foundation, they indicate that 3,300 physicians treated 4,227 patients. 
This is a striking finding, since 79.5% of doctors who did try krebiozen 
must have been discouraged after a single patient: they only treated 
one. Ninety-two per cent treated no more than two patients. A good and 
effective drug gets repeatedly used by doctors the country over. Why 
wasn't krebiozen reused by the doctors who prescribed it once? Cancer is 
common enough. It surely wasn't for lack of patients.

The Krebiozen Research Foundation, however, could find glowing success 
in the case records returned to them. They claimed objective improvement 
with decrease in tumor size in 61% of tumors of the brain and spinal 
cord, 70% of metastases to the brain, 48% of breast cancers. How then 
could physicians who saw such striking results be unmoved by their own 
success? Three cases will suffice to indicate the glaring inadequacy of 
critical *****sment of patient records by the Krebiozen Research
Foundation.

Dr. Ivy kept a research record on a Mr. Taietti, although he never saw 
the patient, who had returned to the Argentine. From time to time, Dr. 
Ivy received verbal re****ts from Dr. Durovic which he then entered into 
the record. In February, 1959 he entered, "The patient has remained well 
and a recent cystoscopy revealed a normal bladder." In 1961 he wrote, 
"Patient is well and active." Yet the U.S. Food and Drug Administration 
(FDA) FDA, in a display of long-distance diligence, showed that the 1959 
and 1961 re****ts were false, because Mr. Taietti died of bladder cancer 
on July 12, 1955.

In 1962, California physician decided from what he had seen and read 
that krebiozen research was not a bona fide clinical investigation. He 
wrote to ask for krebiozen for a patient who had had a bilateral 
pneumonectomy. Bilateral pneumonectomy (the removal of both lungs) is 
incompatible with life. No questions were asked, however, and krebiozen 
was sent with the usual request for $9.50 a vial. When the physician 
didn't pay, he received rebillings at monthly intervals. When he 
re****ted this to the FDA, further investigation followed.

In March, 1963 another physician wrote deliberately stating his patient 
had had a bilateral total pneumonectomy, the unambiguous removal of both 
lungs. This is inconsistent with life and with common sense, but the 
Krebiozen Research Foundation, whose principal scientific consultant, 
Dr. Ivy, is a distinguished physiologist, sent 8 ampules of krebiozen 
and a bill for $76.

The falsification of Mr. Taietti's survival was apparently perpetrated 
by Dr. Durovic presumably to improve the results from krebiozen. Since 
Dr. Ivy accepted Dr. Durovic's word, at best he was duped and 
scientifically uncritical. The conduct of the Krebiozen Research 
Foundation, which was incor****ated in 1951 by Dr. Durovic, his brother, 
Dr. Ivy and Dr. Pick, is totally discredited scientifically and morally 
in its merchandising technique of ****pping krebiozen to individuals with 
no lungs with requests for "donations."

But some might say the foregoing are clerical errors; who suffered and 
from what injury? As an example, Orme Moritz suffered. She had read 
about krebiozen and thus refused surgery for primary cancer of the 
breast. She was accepted for study by the Krebiozen Research Foundation 
and for approximately one year, in 1958, received krebiozen. The records 
at the Krebiozen Research Foundation show her case at that time as 
"early operable." The tumor doubled in size while she was on krebiozen. 
Finally in September, 1958, after nearly a year's delay, Drs. Ivy and 
Durovic recommended a radical mastectomy. She died 10 months later of 
metastatic cancer of the lung from adenocarcinoma. of the breast. This 
is a sad tale of delay and avoidance of what might have been curative 
treatment because of unfounded hope that krebiozen treatment might make 
surgery unnecessary. How many similarly lost their chance for effective 
treatment because of krebiozen is unknown.

"Clamoring for a Test"
I believe the above case re****ts demonstrate the kind of activity 
conducted by the Krebiozen Research Foundation. Nonetheless, the most 
strident characteristic of the last two or three years of the 
Foundation's activities has been the "quest for a test." The National 
Cancer Institute has on several occasions indicated to the Foundation 
the conditions under which a clinical trial would be undertaken, which 
are the universal requirements, not concocted just for krebiozen.

A scientific basis for believing that the material may possibly be of 
benefit to cancer patients.
Adequate preliminary study of laboratory animals to identify the nature 
and quantitative aspects of toxicity to insure a maximum op****tunity of 
preventing harm to the patient.
The material must be described and standardized well enough to assure 
that a definite entity or a reproducible material is being tested.
None of these three prerequisites was ever met by krebiozen or by the 
Foundation, and in the course of turning up information, much appeared 
that deterred a test procedure. I shall detail these factors below, but 
want now to indicate what the Krebiozen Research Foundation means by a 
fair test. I quote from a letter signed by Drs. Pick, Ivy, and Durovic 
to a re****ter for the New York Post on October 3, 1960:

1. All details of the design and administration and bases of evaluation 
of the double-blind test shall meet with the approval of Dr. Andrew C. 
Ivy and the Krebiozen Research Foundation.

2. Such details, noted above to be worked out with the advice and 
participation of Dr. Andrew C. Ivy or his appointees, must assure that 
Dr. Ivy or his designated medical representatives, which he can appoint 
according to his judgment of the situation, will have free and 
continuing access at all times to observe the patients and their 
treatment. All records pertaining to their treatment as well as the 
right to record in the clinical files any disagreements or evaluation of 
the effect of Krebiozen in the patients or any other omissions or 
commissions.

3. Within 8 weeks after conclusion of the clinical tests, the results of 
the evaluating committee shall be published by the Journal of the 
American Medical Association. If there is not unanimity of opinion then 
any difference of opinion among members of the evaluating committee 
shall be published in the same publication simultaneously. It is an 
explicit condition of our acceptance of the proposal that Dr. Andrew C. 
Ivy and/or his appointee shall be guaranteed a full publication of the 
observations and conclusions regarding this test in the same publication 
simultaneously with that of the evaluating committee members, so that if 
there is difference of opinion, the scientific community shall have the 
op****tunity to study our views.

4. The New York Post shall be an observer of all negotiations for 
implementing its proposal and shall at the conclusion of the test re****t 
any or all differences of opinion, if any, regarding results. The New 
York Post also agrees to re****t at any time during the clinical test, 
upon the request of any party, any claims of deviation from the 
agreements made among the parties to the test."

Such stipulations are rarely seen in the course of bona fide medical 
research. I doubt the National Cancer Institute needs advice from the 
Krebiozen Research Foundation or its members or partisans, or from a 
newspaper, on how to conduct fundamental or clinical cancer research 
properly.

In the course of the legal and political wrangles that have marked the 
history of krebiozen, the Krebiozen Research Foundation gave to the FDA 
and the National Cancer Institute records of 504 patients who were 
supposed to have been among the best in the Foundation's file. The FDA 
did a thorough job of following up the data on these patients seeking 
out hospital and doctor's records, pathology re****ts, death certificates 
and more complete data than the unsubstantiated records of the Krebiozen 
Research Foundation. An expert committee applied the usual criteria for 
evaluation of cancer response. Of the 504 patients, only 288 case 
records were found adequate for interpretation. Of these, two patients 
had tumor regression. In 13 other instances, doubtful effects were seen 
which were either incompletely substantiated, associated with other 
treatments, or unconvincing in the significance of the effects since 
early death or simultaneous growth of other tumors occurred. This 
experience might occur in a large sample of cancer patients, 
spontaneously. The 24 panel members recommended against clinical trial.

After the full-scale investigation of the Krebiozen Foundation was 
undertaken by the FDA, the clinical records of the Foundation were 
photocopied and searched for evidence of objective anti-tumor effects. 
4,307 patients with clinical cancer were treated with krebiozen before 
1962. Sixty-eight cancer clinicians who convened in small groups over a 
long period in Wa****ngton to review the records found 2,781 records 
unacceptable for evaluation because of overlapping treatments, lack of 
proof of diagnosis, inadequate do***entation, and similar standard 
prerequisites for judgment of effect. There were, however, 1,526 
patients whose records were considered acceptable for a determination of 
effect, and of these 1,526, 3 patients were found in whom it is 
possible, but not certain in each instance, that partial regression of 
the tumor may have occurred. One remission was of two weeks duration, 
one remission a reduction in size of a primary breast cancer from which 
large biopsies were taken during the treatment, and in the third, a 50% 
decrease in size of a lymph node approximately 3/4 inch in diameter 
although a co-existent cancer seen in the chest x-ray was not restudied 
by film.

Laboratory Analysis
Thus, the unusual cir***stances existed that a great number of mutually 
complementary data existed which made the "quest for a test" ring 
hollow. The misleading data presented at the first occasion of the 
introduction of krebiozen, the negative results found by the academic 
institutions and investigators who had studied it in its early days, the 
failure of 79% of physicians who treated a patient to treat a second 
patient, and on review of the data of the Krebiozen Research Foundation 
itself by competent physicians and scientists, the failure to find 
evidence of reproducible or significant benefit in the 1,526 patients 
with interpretable records. Any one of these data would be adequate 
basis for reluctance to undertake a clinical trial. Taken together, they 
are overwhelming.

Yet, the capstone is still to come. Samples of krebiozen were 
reluctantly provided on two occasions to the National Cancer Institute, 
and on one occasion to the FDA in the form of dry powder. In September, 
1961, the material was labeled as pure krebiozen, and this 
identification was confirmed and reiterated as late as March, 1963. All 
three samples, on analysis by the FDA, consultants from several 
universities, and by studies at the National Cancer Institute proved to 
be creatine monohydrate, a normal constituent of muscle and a common 
laboratory compound purchasable for $.30 a gram, approximately $10 for a 
1-ounce bottle.

As you might expect, the Krebiozen Research Foundation had an answer for 
this set of observations, too. They implied that the FDA had 
misinterpreted the data and overlooked the im****tant facts --that the 
creatine monohydrate was just a contaminant in what had previously been 
labeled pure krebiozen, and that trace quantities of real krebiozen were 
there.

It may be of some significance at this point to mention that in the 
course of bona fide considerations of a test on krebiozen, before all 
this additional information came to light, the National Cancer Institute 
indicated that ample amounts of the material would be needed for any 
study. Dr. Durovic stated krebiozen could be provided at a cost of 
$170,000 a gram, which by calculation is $170,000,000 for the kilogram 
ordinarily consumed in preliminary study of a drug, unless of course 
quantity reductions were allowed for a bulk purchaser. This 500,000-fold 
markup is not the worst of the story, however.

Indeed, the samples of dry material provided to the FDA and the National 
Cancer Institute were creatine monohydrate, but creatine monohydrate is 
insoluble in mineral oil. You will recall that Dr. Durovic had stated 
that he put 10 micrograms in each milliliter of mineral oil as the 
krebiozen unit. The FDA analyzed krebiozen of ampules which patients had 
obtained prior to 1963, during 1963, and in 1964. Ten micrograms in one 
milliliter of mineral oil would be approximately a 1% solution. No 
material was found in a concentration of 1%. Indeed, extensive tests 
were made using methods such as thin layer chromatography, gas 
chromatography, and other microanalytic and concentrating techniques 
capable of detecting 100 times lower concentrations than that said to be 
present by Dr. Durovic. At sensitivities which would have found 1 part 
in 10 million, not 10 µg per ampule, but 1 µg in 10 ampules, nothing was 
found in the mineral oil. In 1963, l-methylhydantoin and amyl alcohol 
were found in the mineral oil. This is easily explained by the necessity 
of heating creatine monohydrate in amyl alcohol in order to get the 
compound into solution, and this process of heating changes creatine 
monohydrate into l-methylhydantoin. FDA found in its investigation that 
from 1949 to 1959 all ampules of krebiozen analyzed had nothing but 
mineral oil in them, and in 1964, again all ampules tested had nothing 
but mineral oil. This leads to the inference that krebiozen, as such, 
was a fairy tale, a nonexistent fabrication in mineral oil which sold 
for $9.50 an ampule.
The strengthening of the FDA after the thalidomide tragedy allowed it to 
require that all investigational drugs be subject to registration. A 
plan of investigation must be filed, investigators competent by training 
and professional standing who would conduct the research must be 
identified and registered, and complete disclosure of manufacturing 
processes and standards of reproducibility and purity must be provided 
to obtain FDA clearance for investigational use. All investigational 
drugs must conform. Immediately prior to the deadline, Dr. Stevan 
Durovic made the necessary filings with the FDA for krebiozen, but one 
month later notified he the Secretary of the Health, Education and 
Welfare that he was withdrawing his request for an investigational new 
drug application.

Financial Considerations
Now why would all this happen? Cancer quackery is lucrative. Dr. Stevan 
Durovic is under indictment for evasion of income tax in the amount of 
$904,907 for the years 1960, 1961, and 1962 alone. Government 
investigators had shown at his trial that large sums of money were 
withdrawn from the bank accounts of the Promak Laboratory -- money 
derived from the sale of krebiozen and sent to Canadian and Swiss banks 
by Dr. Durovic. There was apparently a leak that a tax claim would be 
filed against him shortly after the trial, and a watch of international 
air****ts was undertaken lest he try to leave the country. But Dr. 
Durovic did manage to get out. He told a Chicago re****ter that he had 
flown nonstop from Chicago to London and then traveled to Paris. 
Internal Revenue agents told a Wa****ngton correspondent, however, that 
Durovic had flown from Miami to Bimini in the Bahamas, from Bimini to 
Nassau, from Nassau to Bermuda, and from Bermuda to London and Paris. 
This would indeed seem like a serpentine course for a man heading to 
Paris only because of illness, as Dr. Durovic stated. Currently, he is 
re****ted to have moved on to Switzerland amid news re****ts that he is 
undergoing treatment for tuberculosis. Dr. Durovic has stated publicly 
in the newspapers that he does not owe the United States Government a 
single penny and that he will come back to Chicago to face the charges 
as soon as his treatment is over. We all know that the rest treatment 
for tuberculosis sometimes may take many years. It is of interest as an 
aside that one of Durovic's attorneys has filed a suit seeking $11,787 
in unpaid legal fees.

The government has a tax lien against Marko Durovic for more than half a 
million dollars for taxes which the Internal Revenue Service contends 
were not paid in 1954-1958.

And what of the finances of Dr. Ivy? He attributed his deposits of 
$172,722 in a checking account in 1957 to his take-home university pay, 
ca****ng in of insurance policies and to in-and-out sales in the stock 
market, buying and selling stock several times and repeatedly depositing 
the money made from the sales. The records of his two brokers, however, 
although reflecting stock purchases in 1957, and a few sales, show that 
the proceeds of sales were reinvested and not remitted to Dr. Ivy or his 
wife. This difference in sworn testimony has not yet led to legal 
actions of which I am aware.

Criminal Prosecution Unsuccessful
Now that is nearly the end of the krebiozen tale, except when Dr. Ivy, 
Dr. Durovic, and Mr. Marko Durovic were brought to trial for violations 
of FDA regulations and fraud before a jury of laymen in Chicago, they 
were acquitted. Despite the evidence of the lack of a component in the 
mineral oil in the early and recent ampules, and of the presence of 
l-methylhydantoin in 1963, despite the records on patients with 
bilateral pneumonectomies, the record of a dead patient re****ted to be 
alive and well for 6 extra years, the evidence of inactivity in the 504 
patients, and much more data, they were acquitted. The acquittal came 
after 8 days of deliberation during which time the jury re****tedly 
advised the judge several times that it was hopelessly deadlocked.

Since the trial had no bearing on the scientific issues, as distinct 
from the legal, and no compliance with regulations for new drug 
investigation has been accomplished, the FDA does not permit the 
interstate distribution of krebiozen, however.

Government Vigilance Still Needed
One might make suggestions for trials of this kind for the future, since 
cancer quackery regrettably is not dead and repetition -- particularly 
on an intrastate basis -- is virtually assured from time to time. The 
Government should pick a single or at most a few charges rather than the 
multiple citations that were handled in the krebiozen trial. It seems 
unnecessary that the entire history of a quackery promotion be put on 
trial. One or two glaring instances which prove that the accused was 
deliberately misapplying diagnostic or treatment procedures to patients 
with a specific disease or diseases would suffice. Justice could then be 
served and the quackery deterred. Thus the trials would not last for 
months, and if we are obliged to use lay juries, their attention could 
be focused on major topics and concepts. I am not sure that lay juries 
are the best way to handle actions which involve matters of cancer 
research or other controversies of similar scientific complexity. 
Perhaps a blue-ribbon jury or a panel of judges such as sit in Appeals 
Courts and Supreme Courts would better be able to sift the facts. As our 
society becomes scientifically more complex, it may not be realistic to 
expect an average peer jury adequately to comprehend scientific data 
relevant to each proceeding.

Secondly, what is sought in a trial of this kind is justice. A change of 
venue from the home town of an indicted individual where newspaper 
coverage has been extensive might remove him from prejudice of his 
fellow townsmen, which just as often as not, might be adverse. 
Certainly, a jury in some other city in Illinois or the United States 
might have had less prior association with the news and doings of the 
defendants in the krebiozen trial and thus have less subconscious basis 
for any bias.

The FDA, with its added sup****t, and the competence which this sup****t 
will allow, should become a powerful guardian of the public health. 
Since it is composed of humans like the rest of us, it can make 
mistakes. But surely the FDA has been unjustly accused of the most venal 
activities while performing a fine public service in its conduct of the 
krebiozen investigation.

The FDA should deal in science and science deals in facts. The 
interpretation of these facts are opinions. The FDA, like other 
governmental science agencies, therefore, should thus have periodic 
review by nongovernmental expert consultants.

But by and large the facilities of the FDA and its skills, and mission 
are such that it will be the major factor in the United States in 
determining drug safety and efficacy. With alert and professional 
direction, the FDA should be able to eliminate the hazard of cancer 
quackery in interstate commerce.

And what about the states? Since the states, with possibly few 
exceptions, can hardly afford the extensive laboratory and professional 
staff of the FDA, it might be well that they routinely subscribe for 
intrastate use to FDA regulations for interstate use. I believe no state 
will wisely relinquish all prerogatives for exceptions, however, should 
a State Health Department find itself, based on fact, in substantial 
disagreement with FDA policy. But this is a retreat position, a legal 
safeguard for the states, and it is likely that most State Health 
Departments would welcome the enabling legislation which allowed them to 
adopt FDA regulations on an ad hoc basis for intrastate regulation of 
drug manufacture and use.

We must remember that the great tragedy of the krebiozen myth is that it 
is a myth. Cancer still maims and kills. Its control will require the 
best of science. There are too few people in the world qualified and 
able to pursue cancer research to dissipate their energies on negative 
leads. Society asks for progress and results against cancer and it will 
gain them through the evolving discoveries of science and medicine. The 
cancer cell is deaf to oratory and lawsuits. Our concerns must be to 
continue a cancer research program of wide scope, imaginative creativity 
and unquestioned integrity. Im****tant advances in understanding the 
treatment of cancer with chemicals have been recorded, but they are 
largely unknown to society because of the clamor surrounding krebiozen. 
The challenge of cancer is too im****tant and pervasive for society and 
the scientific community to squander any more time on false lures or 
mineral oil.

___________________

Dr. Holland is Distinguished Professor of Neoplastic Diseases and 
Director Emeritus of the Derald H. Ruttenberg Cancer Center, Mount Sinai 
Medical Center in New York City. He is also senior editor of Cancer 
Medicine -- a massive medical textbook now in its 4th edition. This 
article is adapted from his presentation to the Third National Congress 
on Medical Quackery in Chicago on October 7, 1966.
 




 41 Posts in Topic:
Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Good Lord" <  2007-04-13 07:31:09 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Thorson <nospam@[  2007-04-13 13:03:19 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
show@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-13 22:21:08 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-13 18:50:54 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Jan Drew" <  2007-04-13 21:59:53 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 03:35:58 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
wright@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-14 02:29:19 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 03:25:41 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 03:28:28 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 15:52:29 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 17:36:06 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"vernon O" <  2007-04-14 14:04:12 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-15 18:51:08 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"vernon O" <  2007-04-15 13:38:38 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-18 00:47:25 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"vernon O" <  2007-04-18 07:36:41 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Hawki" <Haw  2007-04-18 16:40:46 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"David" <dav  2007-04-18 13:17:07 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
JohnDoe <dont@[EMAIL P  2007-04-19 11:48:23 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"David" <dav  2007-04-19 07:59:10 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Jan Drew" <  2007-04-19 02:35:05 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Hawki" <Haw  2007-04-19 09:27:15 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-15 18:48:29 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"vernon O" <  2007-04-15 13:39:35 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-18 03:25:03 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"vernon O" <  2007-04-14 21:02:39 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-18 03:24:20 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Good Lord" <  2007-04-14 03:46:58 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"David" <dav  2007-04-14 07:15:16 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 15:53:53 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-14 17:34:24 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"Jan Drew" <  2007-04-15 01:38:15 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-15 18:54:25 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"jandew6" <j  2007-04-15 23:05:06 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
"David" <dav  2007-04-16 12:44:31 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-18 03:27:51 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
nobody@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-17 00:11:36 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-18 03:26:45 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-18 03:25:28 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
wright@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-04-14 21:05:19 
Re: Question for all : Is the Liver Cleanse for real or a Hoax?
Mark Probert <markprob  2007-04-15 18:52:09 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
localhost-V2008-12-19 Wed Jan 7 10:23:18 PST 2009.